Re: [Fwd: Orgmode] Proposal: Enhanced link capabilites to Wanderlust messages

Re: [Fwd: Orgmode] Proposal: Enhanced link capabilites to Wanderlust messages

[Tokuya Kameshima]

Hi David,

Thank you for the mail.  I missed your proposal on the mailing list.

I totally agree with your modification on "1.1 Messages in filter
folders" and "1.2 Messages in shimbun folders".  Thanks!  Please go
ahead and ask Carsten to merge the modification to the git repository.

As for "1.3 Link to thread", I think we can avoid the global level
implementation by the following modification:

    In the WL summary mode, you can toggle the thread open/close
    status by pressing '/' key.  If `org-wl-link-to-thread' is set to
    t and the thread is *closed*, `org-wl-store-link' stores a link to
    the thread.  Otherwise, it stores a link to the message.

The patch is below.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
--- org-wl.el.BAK	Sun Jan 10 14:16:05 2010
+++ org-wl.el	Tue Jan 12 16:22:25 2010
@@ -129,6 +129,9 @@
 	   (folder-type (org-wl-folder-type folder-name))
 	   (message-id (elmo-message-field wl-summary-buffer-elmo-folder
 					   msgnum 'message-id))
+	   (org-wl-link-to-thread (if (wl-thread-entity-get-opened
+				       (wl-thread-get-entity msgnum))
+				      nil org-wl-link-to-thread))
 	   (wl-message-entity
 	    (if (fboundp 'elmo-message-entity)
 		(elmo-message-entity
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I am not sure this is a good solution since this behavior seems a
little bit tricky for the users.  But at least it avoids the global
setting problem.

Thanks,
--Tokuya


On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:17:35 +0100,
David Maus <maus.david@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tokuya,
> 
> Some days ago I posted a proposal about enhanced link capabilities to
> Wanderlust messages for Emacs/Orgmode on the orgmode Mailinglist
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/21046
> 
> and as there are (as it seems) not that much Orgmode users who use
> Wanderlust Carsten suggested to contact you directly, too, just in
> case you don't read the orgmode mailinglist regularly.
> 
> So if you happen to have any suggestion, comments or more ideas on
> extending Orgmodes capabilities I'd be glad to hear.
> 
> Regards
> 
>   -- David
> 
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Re: [Fwd: Orgmode] Proposal: Enhanced link capabilites to Wanderlust messages

[David Maus]

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Hi Tokuya,

At Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:35:59 +0900,
Tokuya Kameshima wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Thank you for the mail.  I missed your proposal on the mailing list.
>
> As for "1.3 Link to thread", I think we can avoid the global level
> implementation by the following modification:
>
>     In the WL summary mode, you can toggle the thread open/close
>     status by pressing '/' key.  If `org-wl-link-to-thread' is set to
>     t and the thread is *closed*, `org-wl-store-link' stores a link to
>     the thread.  Otherwise, it stores a link to the message.
>
> The patch is below.
>
> [snip]
>
> I am not sure this is a good solution since this behavior seems a
> little bit tricky for the users.  But at least it avoids the global
> setting problem.

I'm not quite sure, either. My main concern is that under some
circumstances Orgmode will store a link to a 'thread' filter folder
even if the user does not intend to. And if I am the user I expect to
have complete control over my computer.

Using the 'folded' state of a thread gives control when storing a link
to a message that is part of a thread but not if the message is *not*
(yet) part of one. That is: A single message is a message in a threat
that has exactly one message.

Currently I am not sure anymore if storing a link to a thread is that
important. Storing a regular link to a message that is part of the
threat would be sufficient as opening the message in it's folder will
also show the threat the message is part of.

 -- David

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