From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Can we make border width zero by default? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:41:36 -0400 Message-ID: <877hoj6zin.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <4BBC967A.303@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270654916 5964 80.91.229.12 (7 Apr 2010 15:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 07 17:41:54 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXO3-0000N9-Of for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:41:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34306 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NzXO2-0006yq-On for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:41:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NzXNy-0006yb-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:41:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37229 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NzXNx-0006yT-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:41:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXNs-0008Rk-UJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:41:45 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po15.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.71]:41060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXNs-0008RO-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:41:40 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014140.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po15.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o37FfcoQ009742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0ACEC055; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBC967A.303@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:28:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.95 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123315 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > While looking into bug 5848, I experimented with border width (not > internal border width). The default is currently 2 pixels. I'd like > to set that to zero. > > The reasons are that some window managers (metacity at least) > overrides this and sets zero anyway. Other window managers like > compiz make the border on two sides transparent and black on the other > two. Probably this is some effect applications can take advantage of, > but for Emacs it just looks strange (see screen shot). > > For the Gtk+ port, border width has no effect, it can't be specified > in Gtk+-functions and it is hardcoded to 0 in the Gtk+ code. > > Any thoughts? Fine by me (for the trunk). I don't know the reasoning behind the current 2px default.