From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:53:44 +0900 Message-ID: <877hk6scuv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87lj8nsndb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <19545.14451.62000.682223@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.19472.187000.199606@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280930085 5678 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2010 13:54:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 13:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 04 15:54:42 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgeQb-0005La-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:54:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44194 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgeQa-0005w9-Hd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56100 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgeQR-0005uL-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:54:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgeQQ-0002XF-N1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:54:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:54591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgeQQ-0002Wn-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493671537B3; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 22:54:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5ED311FFC3; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 22:53:44 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <19545.19472.187000.199606@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128241 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy writes: > I made a mistake in my previous response to Stephen, it seems. XEmacs > does provide menu accelerators and it probably did it since 2001. So, > the infrastructure has been there. However, the menus don't seem to > have been designed all that carefully to avoid conflicts. (I got > fooled because the examples that I tried all had conflicts.) That's possibly true in XEmacs 21.4 (then, and now). I think Ben's big push on the menus was later, and probably only made it into 21.5. Anyway, in 21.5 I don't see any conflicts. I think if there are conflicts, it starts randomly assigning accelerators. (Well, not entirely randomly; it uses numbers, which normally are not used that way.)