From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: base Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:38:20 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <877hjgotj7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <20100822120642.GA1794@muc.de> <87bp8uzu9d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <871v9o7dmf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wrrg5rzg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r5ho5gyr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87occsoz4l.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282667930 29269 80.91.229.12 (24 Aug 2010 16:38:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 24 18:38:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnwWN-0000ky-QY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:38:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47173 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OnwWN-0003vp-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35117 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OnwWH-0003vj-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:38:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnwWG-00041l-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:55233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnwWF-00041U-OM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnwWF-0000f6-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:38:39 +0200 Original-Received: from p508ed119.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.142.209.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:38:39 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p508ed119.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:38:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508ed119.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WTCtCNGdMiqv+wLZKNVBKuV4034= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129155 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 16:37, David Kastrup wrote: > >> The maintainer of the Windows port hates Windows AFAIR.  I believe that >> he is doing quite a good job but does not radiate happiness all the >> while. > > I can understand that. > > I cannot understand his unwillingness to accept that many people are > just *users*, not developers, and his propension to give them a bad > time when they report bugs and ask (politely, often) about status of > features, etc. "Fix it yourself" is good advice (if the person can > follow), but it shouldn't be a battle cry. > >> That is somewhat different than the Windows port maintainers of Emacs. > > I think I've missed the irony. Care to elaborate? I did not intend any irony. If you want to go looking for it, it may be that git/Schindelin are doing a better job convincing people that Windows is just not worth the trouble than Emacs/Stallman are. A previous girlfriend of mine once was what one might call a party smoker. The last time I ever remember her smoking was at a party where I picked up a cigarette for company or whatever. That turned out not pretty. -- David Kastrup