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From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 7408@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#7408: 23.2.1 dolist -- subr.el and cl-macs differ with nil-block return
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:02:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877hga5lz4.fsf_-_@picasso.cante.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwroccbyc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:39:37 -0500")

2010-11-17 15:39 Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>:
>> Is the explanation (I'm not familiar with the history) that at the time
>> cl.el was added there was no dolist in core Emacs, so there was no
>> perceived need to call it dolist* as in other similar cases (mapcar*,
>> defun* etc)? (In that case my sincere disdain would go for the person
>> who introduced dolist into subr.el later without addressing the naming
>> clash.)
>
> AFAIK subr.el's dolist and dotimes are 100% compatible with
> CL's definition.  Of course, if you want to call `return' in there,
> you'll need to define `return', which is only provided by CL so you need
> to (require 'cl).
>
2010-11-17 15:39 Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>:
>> The 'return' has been integral part of 'dolist' since the start.
>
> Who cares?

There happens to be people that care.

> Show me a piece of code which would work with CL's dolist (but without
> CL's return) and yet doesn't work with subr.el's dolist.

As per request:

    - "if you want to call `return' in there, you'll need to define `return"
    - "dolist and dotimes are 100% compatible with CL's definition."

Jari

    $ emacs -Q

    (progn
      (autoload 'return "cl-macs" nil nil 'macro)
      (dolist (elt '(1 2))
        (return elt)))

    Debugger entered--Lisp error: (no-catch --cl-block-nil-- 1)
      cl-block-throw(--cl-block-nil-- 1)
      (return-from nil elt)
      (return elt)
      (while --dolist-tail-- (setq elt (car --dolist-tail--)) (return elt) (setq --dolist-tail-- (cdr --dolist-tail--)))
      (let ((--dolist-tail-- ...) elt) (while --dolist-tail-- (setq elt ...) (return elt) (setq --dolist-tail-- ...)))
      (dolist (elt (quote ...)) (return elt))
      (progn (autoload (quote return) "cl-macs" nil nil (quote macro)) (dolist (elt ...) (return elt)))
      eval((progn (autoload (quote return) "cl-macs" nil nil (quote macro)) (dolist (elt ...) (return elt))))
      eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
      eval-last-sexp(nil)
      call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)






  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <r6eo4w45.fsf@blue.sea.net>
     [not found] ` <1213200935.4147.62.camel@cyberelk.elk>
2010-10-16 13:42   ` bug#7227: re-search-forward goes infinite loop with dash inside [] Jari Aalto
2010-10-16 13:54     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-11-16 21:25   ` bug#7408: Linux patchutils: Development of the project? Jari Aalto
2010-11-16 21:59     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-16 22:21     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-17  4:47       ` jari
2010-11-17  8:25         ` Glenn Morris
2010-11-17 13:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-17 12:47       ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-17 13:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-18 22:02           ` Jari Aalto [this message]
2010-11-21  5:45             ` bug#7408: 23.2.1 dolist -- subr.el and cl-macs differ with nil-block return Stefan Monnier
2010-11-21  9:08               ` jari
2010-11-21 17:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-21 18:51                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-17 14:18         ` bug#7408: Linux patchutils: Development of the project? martin rudalics
2010-11-15 10:51 bug#7408: 23.2.1 dolist -- subr.el and cl-macs differ with nil-block return Jari Aalto
2010-11-15 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-15 17:49   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-15 19:38     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <handler.7408.D7408.12898423464754.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2010-11-15 21:21   ` bug#7408: closed (Re: bug#7408: 23.2.1 dolist -- subr.el and cl-macs differ with nil-block return) jari
2010-11-15 21:57     ` bug#7408: 23.2.1 dolist -- subr.el and cl-macs differ with nil-block return Glenn Morris
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-16  9:16 bug#7227: re-search-forward goes infinite loop with dash inside [] Jari Aalto
2010-10-16 11:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-16 11:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-22  7:55 ` bug#7227: Close bts:gnu Jari Aalto

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