From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:52:45 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <877h8yfzs2.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87aaebbndz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DDDA5A7.6040109@siege-engine.com> <87boyp5vyi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxi8xq6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o4ebtq0.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87vcwpsa6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uzccr2k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lixji1mz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r57beyqk.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DE90C32.7090105@swipnet.se> <871uzag6js.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DE9228A.1010504@swipnet.se> <4DEC9C9C.2010001@swipnet.se> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307402190 3080 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2011 23:16:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:16:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 07 01:16:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTj1z-0000SZ-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:16:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52896 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTj1y-0007kR-5N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:16:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50369) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTgnG-0006TJ-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTgnE-0004hO-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTgnE-0004hH-5E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTgnB-0003re-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:52:57 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:52:57 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:52:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SVzm4QRS/2iAmZq6gmIusTMCFm4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140248 Archived-At: On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:00:27 +0200 Julien Danjou wrote: #+begin_src: emacs-lisp (defun make-special-frame () (let* ((width 200) (height 500) (ff (make-frame `((visibility . nil) (width . 20))))) (x-change-window-property "_NET_WM_STRUT_PARTIAL" `(,width 0 0 0 0 ,height 0 0 0 0 0 0) ff "CARDINAL" 32 t) (x-change-window-property "_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE" '("_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK") ff "ATOM" 32 t) (make-frame-visible ff))) #+end_src JD> This, under awesome and Metacity, creates a new frame and reserves 50 JD> pixels on the left of the screen for the frame. It does not affect any JD> other Emacs frame. JD> Both awesome and metacity drops the window decoration because they JD> recognise the window as a dock, and reserve the space. I think this is JD> exactly what Ted wants, except portability. Under XMonad, that creates a strut panel but the panel won't take any keyboard input, which is a problem. When I try to close it from the WM, the WM targets another frame instead (the strut panel is not a normal window, as expected). It can be closed from the menus, but if I turn off the menus as I intend, there will be no way to easily close that frame. I guess I can install a right-click handler, but I wonder if it's not better to let emacs-panel manage all the popup frames it creates, arranging them along the screen edges. The lack of keyboard input handling concerns me. Does keyboard input work in other WMs? I realize this is way beyond the intended use of Emacs, so don't take it as a complaint, more of an investigation :) Thanks Ted