From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vijay Lakshminarayanan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:11:06 +0530 Message-ID: <877h43h8pp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lissh32y.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zkh8e286.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87d3e4gttq.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ehyjrhxh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3e2rfte.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878voqfiaw.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zkh4bhho.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87y5wonpmn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y5wkosuh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318869694 12811 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2011 16:41:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , Juanma Barranquero , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 18:41:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqFg-0001yR-Dg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:41:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqFf-0002cT-Lj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqFc-0002cD-Em for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqFb-0006s2-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:64725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqFb-0006rw-38; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:41:19 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2170833qyk.0 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XCFmJ9Gzn+5qQdgOOk/W4CsTODKCTsTCe6HlDaI1fus=; b=RXwvJgmUKBXe4QAM1aRRZV8YwLmbFUjlA+YL3XeXxgUclfpZoba7ZLJLZCWaaHiDTv CJFOYOlRgblz7fyXJHeHZC6jLRs1vwWwnFfHGExOVdCx+O1ynS/5o9S4Q8ISgLKkdvsk HCW28ksdnvmN/shwmSst+GfOMmSt/q/5ldG0Q= Original-Received: by 10.68.5.228 with SMTP id v4mr38173871pbv.106.1318869677480; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from BALROG ([59.92.2.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm60372036pbl.5.2011.10.17.09.41.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y5wkosuh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:44:22 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.216.176 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145270 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > > > But your analogy fails, because the problem here is not whether > > > =D3scar can *adapt* to Emacs' use of bzr. =A0He can, and he can use = git > > > (for developing Emacs) at the same time as bzr (for pushing his > > > contributions) if he wants to. > >=20 > > Apparently, for =D3scar is a problem. > > Why do you keep ignoring what he writes? Yes, he *wishes* Emacs used > git, but in this thread, he wants to know why GNU uses a policy that > appears to him to be counterproductive in a number of ways. I think =D3scar's questions have been answered. I think he has also made it quite clear that he doesn't fully understand the goals of the GNU project. For instance, in one post, he bemoaned the fact that GNU's wasn't focusing on "users" even though "users" were its greatest focus. Richard responded with, IMO, a good example comparing Skype helping users but not helping users freedoms. Hopefully =D3scar understands the GNU project better with this thread. That will be, IMO, the only good thing to come out of this huge flamewar. --=20 Cheers ~vijay Gnus should be more complicated.