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[207.172.114.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm36349472vdj.20.2012.01.03.14.56.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:56:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from naesten by hydrogen with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RiDHV-0002TL-9Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:56:33 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:11:53 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:12:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:16:55 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:55385 Archived-At: I was looking to customize the flags that the Emacs `man' command passes to the system's man(1) command to include --nh (so that automatic hyphenation won't interfere with my searching), so when I spotted `Man-switches' in the doc-string for Man-mode, I thought "that looks just like what I need" and immediately went to customize it. Imagine my surprise when, instead of a normal customize widget, I saw this one: ,---- | Man-switches: [Hide Value] "" | [State]: NO CUSTOMIZATION DATA; not intended to be customized. | Switches passed to the man command, as a single string. [Hide Rest]=20= =20=20 |=20=20=20=20 | If you want to be able to see all the manpages for a subject you type, | make -a one of the switches, if your `man' program supports it. `---- (I'm not actually sure how I managed to open the buffer, since I can't get customize-variable to accept that variable name anymore, but that's not what this bug report is about.) So I looked at the source, and I found the following: ,----[ portion of man.el ] | (defcustom Man-header-file-path | '("/usr/include" "/usr/local/include") | "C Header file search path used in Man." | :type '(repeat string) | :group 'man) |=20 | (defvar manual-program "man" | "The name of the program that produces man pages.") |=20 | (defvar Man-untabify-command "pr" | "Command used for untabifying.") |=20 | (defvar Man-untabify-command-args (list "-t" "-e") | "List of arguments to be passed to `Man-untabify-command' (which see).") |=20 | (defvar Man-sed-command "sed" | "Command used for processing sed scripts.") |=20 | (defvar Man-awk-command "awk" | "Command used for processing awk scripts.") |=20 | (defvar Man-mode-hook nil | "Hook run when Man mode is enabled.") |=20 | (defvar Man-cooked-hook nil | "Hook run after removing backspaces but before `Man-mode' processing.") |=20 | (defvar Man-name-regexp "[-a-zA-Z0-9_=C2=AD+][-a-zA-Z0-9_.:=C2=AD+]*" | "Regular expression describing the name of a manpage (without section).= ") |=20 | (defvar Man-section-regexp "[0-9][a-zA-Z0-9+]*\\|[LNln]" | "Regular expression describing a manpage section within parentheses.") |=20 | (defvar Man-page-header-regexp | (if (and (string-match "-solaris2\\." system-configuration) | (not (string-match "-solaris2\\.[123435]$" system-configuration))) | (concat "^[-A-Za-z0-9_].*[ \t]\\(" Man-name-regexp | "(\\(" Man-section-regexp "\\))\\)$") | (concat "^[ \t]*\\(" Man-name-regexp | "(\\(" Man-section-regexp "\\))\\).*\\1")) | "Regular expression describing the heading of a page.") |=20 | (defvar Man-heading-regexp "^\\([A-Z][A-Z0-9 /-]+\\)$" | "Regular expression describing a manpage heading entry.") |=20 | (defvar Man-see-also-regexp "SEE ALSO" | "Regular expression for SEE ALSO heading (or your equivalent). | This regexp should not start with a `^' character.") |=20 | ;; This used to have leading space [ \t]*, but was removed because it | ;; causes false page splits on an occasional NAME with leading space | ;; inside a manpage. And `Man-heading-regexp' doesn't have [ \t]* anyway. | (defvar Man-first-heading-regexp "^NAME$\\|^[ \t]*No manual entry fo.*$" | "Regular expression describing first heading on a manpage. | This regular expression should start with a `^' character.") |=20 | (defvar Man-reference-regexp | (concat "\\(" Man-name-regexp "\\)[ \t]*(\\(" Man-section-regexp "\\))") | "Regular expression describing a reference to another manpage.") |=20 | (defvar Man-apropos-regexp | (concat "\\\[\\(" Man-name-regexp "\\)\\\][ \t]*(\\(" Man-section-regex= p "\\))") | "Regular expression describing a reference to manpages in \"man -k outp= ut\".") |=20 | (defvar Man-synopsis-regexp "SYNOPSIS" | "Regular expression for SYNOPSIS heading (or your equivalent). | This regexp should not start with a `^' character.") |=20 | (defvar Man-files-regexp "FILES\\>" | ;; Add \> so as not to match mount(8)'s FILESYSTEM INDEPENDENT MOUNT OP= TIONS. | "Regular expression for FILES heading (or your equivalent). | This regexp should not start with a `^' character.") |=20 | (defvar Man-include-regexp "#[ \t]*include[ \t]*" | "Regular expression describing the #include (directive of cpp).") |=20 | (defvar Man-file-name-regexp "[^<>\", \t\n]+" | "Regular expression describing <> in #include line (directive of cpp).") |=20 | (defvar Man-normal-file-prefix-regexp "[/~$]" | "Regular expression describing a file path appeared in FILES section.") |=20 | (defvar Man-header-regexp | (concat "\\(" Man-include-regexp "\\)" | "[<\"]" | "\\(" Man-file-name-regexp "\\)" | "[>\"]") | "Regular expression describing references to header files.") |=20 | (defvar Man-normal-file-regexp | (concat Man-normal-file-prefix-regexp Man-file-name-regexp) | "Regular expression describing references to normal files.") |=20 | ;; This includes the section as an optional part to catch hyphenated | ;; references to manpages. | (defvar Man-hyphenated-reference-regexp | (concat "\\(" Man-name-regexp "\\)\\((\\(" Man-section-regexp "\\))\\)?= ") | "Regular expression describing a reference in the SEE ALSO section.") |=20 | (defvar Man-switches "" | "Switches passed to the man command, as a single string. |=20 | If you want to be able to see all the manpages for a subject you type, | make -a one of the switches, if your `man' program supports it.") |=20 | (defvar Man-specified-section-option | (if (string-match "-solaris[0-9.]*$" system-configuration) | "-s" | "") | "Option that indicates a specified a manual section name.") |=20 | (defvar Man-support-local-filenames 'auto-detect | "Internal cache for the value of the function `Man-support-local-filena= mes'. | `auto-detect' means the value is not yet determined. | Otherwise, the value is whatever the function | `Man-support-local-filenames' should return.") |=20 | ;; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | ;; end user variables `---- The way I'm reading this, that's fully 26 (supposed) user variables that are neither defined with `defcustom' nor even given doc-strings beginning with "*", and which therefore require the user to write elisp code in order to use them. (And I think there are a couple more further up, too.) Perhaps it would not provide much real benefit to expose all of the regular expressions through customize (especially with the way many of the bigger ones are built up from smaller pieces). Everything else, however, would probably work quite nicely. (Though I suppose there's no point in quibbling about those when we already have stuff like `Man-filter-list' in customize, is there? :-) -- junk from emacs; probably only the version is actually useful? 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