From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Gardella Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Would you like to work on improving Emacs full time? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:07:21 -0400 Message-ID: <877gx9ypx2.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335028222 3270 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2012 17:10:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:10:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 21 19:10:18 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdpB-0003po-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:10:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60218 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdpA-0007VY-CQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:10:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdp4-0007Dm-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdoz-0002E0-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdoy-0002CE-Qy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:10:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdox-0003ia-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:10:03 +0200 Original-Received: from 76-204-120-197.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net ([76.204.120.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:10:03 +0200 Original-Received: from gardellawg by 76-204-120-197.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:10:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76-204-120-197.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nhrodM32lSYGrve6ePiSqlZ3GNY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149917 Archived-At: Tom writes: > We should know if there are interested developers at all in order to > judge if this model could work for Emacs. (Of course, there can be > interested developers who are not on this list, but I don't know how > they can be reached, that's why I brought up the subject here > where such developers are likely to be.) The Emacs community is somewhat notoriously diffuse and difficult to speak to at once via any medium, but I think that the EmacsWiki and the #emacs channel on Freenode both reach a wider audience than this list, which is seen (correctly or not) as a place by and for those who hack on the official core of GNU Emacs. When you post to this list, you're mostly reaching people who already spend significant time maintaining and developing key Emacs packages--and a few lurkers, like myself :) The best way to go about reaching the wider Emacs community might be to create a "bounties" or "call for projects" page on the EmacsWiki and publicize it through other media like the IRC channel and the identi.ca group. I think this is a great idea, by the way. There are, no doubt, a lot of freelance developers and admins out there who have elisp as part of their skill set--often it's a factor that makes them more effective, faster, better at their paid work--but who are seldom compensated financially for this ability. -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)