From: Yann Hodique <yann.hodique@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:59:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877gwkzcsm.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87fwb8sdeh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
> No, at least in this case Gmail and gmx are behaving conformantly;
> there is no requirement that an MUA implement any kind of behavior for
> the "application" content type, except providing a way to save the
> media to a file. Which they did.
> Gnus is not incorrect, but it *is* behaving non-portably by providing
> a display method for the rare and non-portable (and probably
> unregistered) MIME type "application/emacs-lisp".
> Use "Content-Type: text/emacs-lisp" and see what happens.
As I said in a previous mail, it doesn't change anything for GMail, and
that is also (unfortunately) conformant.
Basically GMail displays *any* content-type it doesn't know about
(including the text/emacs-lisp or text/lisp variants) as an attachment
named "noname", exactly as shown in Eric's screenshot. That's obviously
a bad idea and not in the spirit of RFC 2046 (which says in 4.1.4 that
those *should* be treated as text/plain), but I'm not sure anybody at
Google really cares :)
A fallback to application/octet-stream, which is probably what's
happening here, is indeed correct...
> The MIME *approach* probably *is* portable; you didn't test it.
> The MIME *type* application/emacs-lisp is *non*-portable. That's
> exactly what the "application" type is for.
Agreed, and again we should definitely teach Emacs/Gnus to recognize
some text/something for elisp code.
As of today, when attaching or inlining emacs-lisp code in a Gnus
message, the default value for mime type is that application/emacs-lisp,
and that's a bug.
Only that last part we can fix. So in any case, I don't believe we can
ever afford not to emit the text/plain alternative for dumb (yet
potentially even conformant) MUAs.
Given that, since Emacs is probably the only "MUA" that will ever
implement a handler for any elisp-related MIME type, whether it's
text/emacs-lisp or application/emacs-lisp is probably not that much of
an issue (but again, we should use the former)
Yann.
--
The capacity to learn is a gift; The ability to learn is a skill; The
willingness to learn is a choice.
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Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-05 6:30 lexical-binding questions Thierry Volpiatto
2012-05-05 6:45 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-05-05 8:16 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC (was: lexical-binding questions) Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-05 8:39 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Tom Rauchenwald
2012-05-05 8:54 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-05 13:38 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Bastien
2012-05-05 17:02 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-06 16:03 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Bastien
2012-05-06 16:46 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-06 17:03 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-05-05 14:35 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Drew Adams
2012-05-05 15:10 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Antoine Levitt
2012-05-05 15:57 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Drew Adams
2012-05-05 17:00 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Peter Münster
2012-05-05 17:35 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Drew Adams
2012-05-05 21:38 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC John Wiegley
2012-05-07 2:25 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-07 6:23 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Miles Bader
2012-05-07 9:37 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-05-06 14:17 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-05 15:48 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-05 16:43 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-05 17:12 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-07 8:57 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Julien Danjou
2012-05-07 9:46 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-05 17:36 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Drew Adams
2012-05-05 19:48 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Martyn Jago
2012-05-05 20:00 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Drew Adams
2012-05-07 5:44 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-07 14:23 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Wolfgang Jenkner
2012-05-08 4:08 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-08 7:37 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Bastien
2012-05-08 11:41 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Juanma Barranquero
2012-05-08 12:17 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stefan Monnier
2012-05-08 14:32 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Andreas Röhler
2012-05-09 1:23 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-09 17:31 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stefan Monnier
2012-05-09 0:47 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-09 3:50 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Miles Bader
2012-05-09 11:35 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-09 12:23 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-09 13:43 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-05-09 14:57 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eric Schulte
2012-05-09 17:08 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-09 16:06 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eric Schulte
2012-05-09 18:20 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-09 16:30 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eric Schulte
2012-05-09 18:44 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-10 7:44 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-10 7:28 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-10 7:59 ` Yann Hodique [this message]
2012-05-10 12:35 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-10 13:28 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Yann Hodique
2012-05-10 13:51 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Miles Bader
2012-05-15 3:30 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-10 15:21 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Davis Herring
2012-05-15 3:56 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-10 9:02 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC René Kyllingstad
2012-05-10 13:05 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-10 13:55 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC René Kyllingstad
2012-05-15 3:52 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-16 14:00 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-09 13:52 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Tassilo Horn
2012-05-09 17:44 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Tassilo Horn
2012-05-09 17:33 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stefan Monnier
2012-05-09 4:45 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-09 6:28 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Tassilo Horn
2012-05-09 9:30 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Peter Münster
2012-06-08 0:20 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-05-09 17:36 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stefan Monnier
2012-05-10 0:56 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Miles Bader
2012-05-16 14:51 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-16 13:05 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Eric Schulte
2012-05-16 15:17 ` plain-text markdown handler for Gnus (was: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC) Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-16 14:21 ` plain-text markdown handler for Gnus Eric Schulte
2012-05-16 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-06 14:15 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-06 14:18 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lennart Borgman
2012-05-06 14:33 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Alan Mackenzie
2012-05-06 14:43 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lennart Borgman
2012-05-06 18:57 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-06 23:20 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lennart Borgman
2012-05-07 2:21 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-07 9:56 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Lennart Borgman
2012-05-07 11:04 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-05-05 13:29 ` lexical-binding questions Stefan Monnier
2012-05-05 17:59 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-05-06 0:08 ` Miles Bader
2012-05-06 2:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-06 6:00 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-05-05 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-05 15:57 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-05-07 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-07 15:39 ` Drew Adams
2012-05-15 6:40 ` egnarts-ms
2012-05-15 13:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-14 3:57 ` egnarts-ms
2012-05-14 4:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-14 17:09 ` Johan Bockgård
2012-05-15 17:54 ` egnarts-ms
2012-05-15 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-15 22:59 ` Johan Bockgård
2012-05-16 2:05 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-05-08 22:24 BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Martyn Jago
2012-05-09 17:33 ` BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Stefan Monnier
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