From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: toggle-frame-maximized Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:38:56 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: <877gooqkn3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87boe0qq8d.fsf@gnu.org> <20121212062816.f4833e8d4a22fa4ba0111626@gmail.com> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355265565 5876 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2012 22:39:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:39:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 23:39:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TiYUD-0006GY-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:39:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiYU1-0003Vi-3Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:39:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiYTv-0003JU-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiYTt-0003b2-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:39:19 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59393) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiYTt-0003aU-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:39:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TiYU1-00063p-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:39:25 +0100 Original-Received: from 74.113.160.197 ([74.113.160.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:39:25 +0100 Original-Received: from sds by 74.113.160.197 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:39:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.113.160.197 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:3hH+8wsj7J40lp1Gh9VCtvauLsc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155493 Archived-At: > * Xue Fuqiao [2012-12-12 06:28:16 +0800]: > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:38:10 -0500 > Sam Steingold wrote: > >> A de-facto standard keybinding is f11: maximize/full screen the window. >> (chrome, gnome-terminal, freeciv - all comply). > > But for many terminals (notably DEC terminals) generates . This is not a very common use case, and f11 is not relevant to such a case anyway. > And Drew's library frame-cmds.el > (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/frame-cmds.el) provides various > commands to maximize frames(although `maximized' is not the same as > `fullscreen'). This offers a lot of useful functionality, and one might argue for its inclusion into Emacs, but it is, essentially, optional/non-standard. My code makes Emacs a more compliant desktop application. > fullscreen.el(http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/fullscreen.el) also > provides fullscreen support. This is old and very X-specific. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://ffii.org http://jihadwatch.org http://pmw.org.il http://dhimmi.com http://thereligionofpeace.com http://palestinefacts.org Are you smart enough to use Lisp?