From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Basic legal question: Publication of a fix to psgml Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:29:35 +0200 Message-ID: <877gkkxbio.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <51584E07.8060709@easy-emacs.de> <87ppydxqh4.fsf@scipolis.de> <515BE043.8030900@easy-emacs.de> <87r4isxcs8.fsf@yandex.ru> <515BE542.80807@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364977799 6718 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 08:29:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 10:30:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJ5H-0005Fx-HT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:30:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55555 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJ4s-0008Iu-RF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:29:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJ4e-0008IF-CN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:29:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJ4d-00008g-3X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:29:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]:54516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJ4c-00008H-To for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id x43so989597wey.0 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:29:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hw2SepnIHHcQdfp44dkRLFbyLsYHQvYwTXYL9OT5aAQ=; b=JiZyKO+xcwURpreRu3XhpwZQ1DUfj87AxBWFG/Sh2SQG67q1IflNAKTp22Sm6EzJQS GLGfy3l2Ufz7NKC3YI/2hgJWMSAAVBY18rrTmeMDr2hr+MToiltS+xKGG6UroqBJIGeo CQmC0arlYdDQGrkedkX9hEagDNE5l7IwOCDSVYSGgDtRVHrIQWUqkKSeYG6f3i3m5wz2 HL/5a5ZPQagMVM6LFfeCHRCB/BMRDRMW85Le48y+2N/zMXJt00o0oqoUVQrNQ3dhSXUE ZN5BBDpognsvgaVASK7Y0mbihliuNGp0BM4OJZlgpT0L849dxgZM+RsglUT3PIK0vMka uG+Q== X-Received: by 10.180.72.228 with SMTP id g4mr21263001wiv.22.1364977778212; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4sm23305571wiz.10.2013.04.03.01.29.35 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E59771C2221A; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:29:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <515BE542.80807@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6h?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ler=22's?= message of "Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:16:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::229 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89924 Archived-At: Hi Andreas, Andreas Röhler writes: > CA, as we learned, is partly privately negotiated. Not to my knowledge. The copyright assignment is signed by contributors. I'm not aware of any negociations, and I'd be surprised to learn that there are private negociations. > To evaluate the legal state of different parts in Emacs wrt CA will > need one or more lawyers. This suggests that the copyright status of Emacs is uncertain. I hope you understand it is quite a serious statement and requires some evidence. The copyright status for code in Org's code is very clear, and I think this is also the case for the copyright status of the rest of Emacs. I sometimes get impatient when I have to wait for the FSF Copyright Clerk to handle new copyright assignments for a new contributor, but I know he has a lot of work and he's doing a great job. -- Bastien