From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Blink cursor changes, possible W32 breakage. Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:58:00 +0900 Message-ID: <877ggq3q3b.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <83oba22ymd.fsf@gnu.org> <6B4F86F0-164D-4CBE-8CD2-9BC9326451C4@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374026309 9183 80.91.229.3 (17 Jul 2013 01:58:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 17 03:58:29 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UzH0e-0001sx-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:58:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43672 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzH0d-000072-Sr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzH0W-00006Y-Vl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:58:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzH0S-0003PH-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:58:20 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.71]:48278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzH0M-0003Lq-Bh; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.149.135.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.149.135] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp01.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1UzH0D-0007Ew-Mo; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:58:07 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 68488E039; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:58:00 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:23:46 +0200") Original-Lines: 25 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-GOL-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 203.216.5.71 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161956 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> Yes, but timers are still running, so Emacs are never swapped out, >> and drains battery on laptops (yes it makes a difference). > > Then I would suggest only turning on this functionality if the machine > is on battery power. Surely there's a dbus message for that? > > For machines that aren't on battery power, this doesn't seem like > something that users would want. It seems like rather nice behavior from a user point of view, actually: "active" windows will still be blinky, but "sitting in the background forever" windows will not be. I doubt most users will even notice, to be honest, because they tend to focus on active windows -- and to the degree that a blinking cursor draws attention to non-active windows, the old behavior (always blinking) is arguably a _bad_ thing. Given that, adding all the complexity necessary to use _battery power_ as a precondition seems quite absurd... -miles -- Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.