From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.auctex.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Updating the GNU ELPA package of AucTeX Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:32:20 +0200 Message-ID: <877gey9x8b.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.org> References: <878uzj639h.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378193559 21793 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2013 07:32:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: auctex-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: auctex-devel-bounces+gead-auctex-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 03 09:32:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gead-auctex-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGl6M-00087V-Ru for gead-auctex-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:32:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43749 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGl6J-00082t-EE for gead-auctex-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 03:32:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40456) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGl6C-0007vY-MB for auctex-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 03:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGl66-0000Kl-QM for auctex-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 03:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:50780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGl66-0000Kf-KP; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 03:32:22 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AA01A8482; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:32:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90lRh2ufDpf9; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:32:21 +0200 (CEST) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tsdh@gnu.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.org (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 886D21A8418; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , auctex-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:31:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 141.26.64.15 X-BeenThere: auctex-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for AUCTeX developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: auctex-devel-bounces+gead-auctex-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: auctex-devel-bounces+gead-auctex-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.auctex.devel:3208 gmane.emacs.devel:163151 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I've hoped that with the new Git ELPA, we could just checkout the >> savannah auctex repository as submodule, and then add some hacks to the >> makefiles to produce tarballs suitable for ELPA. Won't work, no? > > No, because: > > I'd very much prefer not having to run code from > the package itself. > > so I can't just run your makefile rule(s). Ok, I see. >>> So, the real problems are: >>> * Preview subdir: >>> I see two clean and easy ways to deal with: >>> - Split it (again) from AucTeX. >> I'd prefer to keep it in auctex. > > Good. > >>> - "mv preview/* ./; rmdir preview" >> I could live with that. But why is a subdirectory a problem in the >> first place? > > Because of the extra complexity in the build procedure. Remember: > it's very simplistic. How about simply omitting preview from the auctex elpa package (at least for now)? Maybe (later) we could have a separate preview-latex elpa package more or less by creating a symlink packages/preview-latex -> packages/auctex/preview and running the very simplistic build procedure in the former? >>> * The .dtx files: >>> Here, building the .sty during construction of the ELPA package is >>> not really an option. >> No LaTeX installed on the machine, or what's the matter? > > Same as "make": automatically running TeX code from random > contributors is too risky for my taste. But of course, TeX is not > installed on the machine either. By omitting preview, that would be solved, too. Bye, Tassilo