From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: over-engineered (and under-standardized) inferior interfaces Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:47:30 +0200 Message-ID: <877g1erwxp.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87mwaq14ez.fsf@gmx.de> <87egw2139g.fsf@gmx.de> <87bnr5u79x.fsf@gmx.de> <87tx4x6lut.fsf@gmx.de> <87vbpcsbqo.fsf@gmx.de> <87fvggs8ks.fsf@gmx.de> <878um8s7n9.fsf@gmx.de> <87zjee6tga.fsf@gmx.de> <87bnqqryfv.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410187679 14829 80.91.229.3 (8 Sep 2014 14:47:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sam Steingold Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 08 16:47:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XR0ES-000481-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:47:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43968 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XR0ER-0008K8-8h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XR0EJ-0008K1-59 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XR0EA-00029m-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:65302) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XR0EA-00029f-BD; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([93.209.78.44]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MX1dc-1Xugjp0czM-00Vu6Z; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:47:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Sam Steingold's message of "Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:38:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:SBvIrpy+UsZCyJk+i6lc6hv+jme4ms5z4Kuz/4hZXpFIZ2uLXq2 mRl71CxVAENYlarh9ycdXDU7uxniYlNaTKJTDGHdW4l5+Zpe3QrGbeuTa4So2waxds8tcJq OMAA9OPm8OHpSWO/zD0ae+b0upeUO0sINYweQJTkgD3QXoILKYljt54Gfg2rPexSxxGbRvj m28oZ+aekhFlkbKm2HGZg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.19 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174088 Archived-At: Sam Steingold writes: > that was after tramp-cleanup-all-connections and with tramp-verbose level 10. ... but with the debug buffer "*debug tramp/ssh vertica*". I need the one from sudo. Best regards, Michael.