From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bundling GNU ELPA packages Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:39:59 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <877fz8ktio.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415302836 1702 80.91.229.3 (6 Nov 2014 19:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:40:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 06 20:40:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XmSuz-0005nj-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:40:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmSuy-0007Bq-Oa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:40:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmSuo-0007Ao-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:40:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmSui-0008Su-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:40:18 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmSuh-0008SX-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:40:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XmSug-0005WM-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:40:10 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9eb08b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.8.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:40:10 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb08b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:40:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb08b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mclBfL51rRGx2lmrMNGolxxHLrY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176474 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > In Emacs-25.1, I'd like to start bundling some GNU ELPA packages > into Emacs. The most obvious such package is Org (whose Git code > should move out of emacs.git and into elpa.git), but others will be > added, I'm sure (probably Company, for example). > > Who'd like to help? I do. Depending on the exact timing of the change I may have more or less time to spend on this topic, though. Here's one issue that I've not seen discussed bradly so far: currently builtin packages aren't packages at all and are indeed available site-wide for this particular Emacs version. ELPA packages on the other hand are a per-user thing only. With ELPA packages bundled into Emacs, I suggest that there should be a possibility for site-wide configuration of which packages are available and enabled in the same way that site-lisp currently works for non-packaged libraries. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs