From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19192: 25.0.50; TRAMP uses `dired-listing-switches' for ftp-connection Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:42:35 +0100 Message-ID: <877fye2spw.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87tx1mrwwq.fsf@gmx.us> <87zjbe9j9c.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9xlil0f.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417258220 6427 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2014 10:50:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19192@debbugs.gnu.org To: Rasmus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 11:50:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XufbQ-0007ya-V8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:50:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47208 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XufbQ-0000Md-Dp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XufbI-0000Il-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:50:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XufbB-00066w-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XufUU-0004wa-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XufUT-0004cv-VU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19192 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19192-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19192.141725776117754 (code B ref 19192); Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19192) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2014 10:42:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48858 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XufU8-0004cI-VU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:42:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:50960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XufU6-0004c7-Qd for 19192@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 05:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([79.195.2.16]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M1BMy-1YA0Xd0pjM-00tALx; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:42:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h9xlil0f.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2014 00:45:36 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fW+wud58L524hzZtJwteJjlQpOChK6lSY//duxI4RvUpmGxDMOY RrqdZ5eJDiXihXLpzUvYznCXGBeb2cPArkZPra6vKOxOy1xOEuYiT00De92XvKB6hThRFzI QN4T/3FNIgBvXLJytAm987DRdGEgO8/DzCkjR4sM6fwtWcfUTvL3WuO9WKgBGzUtFVoQ/+e utxVXi91wAKgKb1MFfLtw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:96724 Archived-At: Rasmus writes: > Hi, Hi Rasmus, >> A possible fix might be to give a user an option, whether global >> dired-listing-switches shall be used everywhere, or whether there shall >> be special settings connection-oriented. > > So it turns out that arguments are tested via `ange-ftp-switches-ok'. > So the easiest fix would probably be to extend this function to do a > better job of checking. Unfortunately, I don't know if one can easily > predict which ls commands will be understood and which not? E.g. does > ftp ls depend on the host systems version of ls? I don't know exactly. But I guess the most stable patch would be to not expect too much from ftp's ls. > Thanks, > Rasmus Best regards, Michael.