From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:11:15 +0100 Message-ID: <877fy3o8ho.fsf@gmx.us> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87wq66ufyt.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zjb04tlw.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417961511 17015 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2014 14:11:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 14:11:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 07 15:11:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxcYq-00034u-5P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:11:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58113 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxcYp-0007NN-Lp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxcYg-0007GG-Vu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:11:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxcYa-0001CH-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:11:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxcYa-0001CD-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:11:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxcYX-0002uY-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:11:25 +0100 Original-Received: from 88.128.80.13 ([88.128.80.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:11:25 +0100 Original-Received: from rasmus by 88.128.80.13 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:11:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.128.80.13 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAAAnRSTlMA/iyWEiMAAAACYktH RAD/h4/MvwAAAAlwSFlzAAAASAAAAEgARslrPgAAAjNJREFUSMe1lsGNIzsMRH15+VQmlUqFwlAY CiMS9qDucdtuD7D78QX4YFtPJFVUSY/1l+Pxj0AbqOO36ZrfgTFytfa0EaD+DRBxTR0h4ukS+Q6Y UC2AJBZOJl+Ix1qNyYCrAhIg8xPwE4jE2DGqTqoNgjFfAEtUzDnUJRvPbYjHWhJvo6YMI+Y+JfxO yMAKN8Qu+oMA3ESfWT1WgGp4wzSCCL2p/iglZUC1Qm2ZUcY7N4Gvqj/iOoue3h88U89y9KL6Y1As CfWysvbMdHVftsCXGhqc1K5hWmABR057XPrksdYqwVWLqaqjt54x5uU8DBf1NJ97HPn1APkCdN2o EvoVeOaU5k5G6UuErcRHryiH6D9AfpuPZO2kThM4GlD388EEzcVmjhruCwCsgzgB0wYtU/c5mU2c QBOrssTMXbOrD8F/nK+gJiPKee7+GDA7NoR5WmVR+8io8FRSPV05FnfPDnHx1khENIWrusqCPlpF 8QjbVzOeUKI4z6xiyngCFJlq68W9d0oUCjWz1shF3EABNdQbUFAE5TAxKTQpKGzkdQOoUI7+l61i r1Nr5u1CqQ3kBxis/ZU6+vsFCIXq8ndTeAN9Aww2qp1D7xKMQ3Qfodj7d2S8VhNwKNAdIBuUnVLO U6Ic63wCREBZUMpayy5wrC+APFHXoetaq+iZ5XwDGveUirOGZSTIVLoPZd6E2xabPjexk3jffrl9 CUy3SD19a53OWN+fDgHydvXMf35r/I/AH5DaBVjP2kHeAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:m6fHYB7eozI5nc4Odko1KczWmxE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179265 Archived-At: Hi, Richard Stallman writes: > When I started reading the Org mode manual, > everything I saw at the beginning was uninteresting, > things I had no wish to do. So I stopped reading it. If you ever desire to give it a second try, I would then suggest that you take a look at the compact guide that I referred to in my previous email. > To propose using Org _format_ is a different proposal. > We can consider that. > [...] > Org mode is not a syntax, it is a program written in Emacs Lisp. People who have suggested Org have the Org format/syntax in mind. These people would likely work with org-mode: the principal "editor" of the Org format. Org-mode is the principal editor of the Org-format, if you want. As other have suggested, the format is used outside of Org (a search on Github for "readme.org" gives approx. 8300 results; of course many of these may be duplicates (forked repositories)). > > Other interpreters than org-element.el exists. For instance, Github > > supports a subset of the Org-syntax via org-ruby. I think vim even > > has some support of Org-syntax. > > Interesting. > > I will look at the page that describes Org format. It's terse and meant to document the syntax for parsing purposed. Nonetheless it's an intriguing read. For a quick introduction to usage of the syntax and the org-mode, the org-guide may be preferable. —Rasmus -- And I faced endless streams of vendor-approved Ikea furniture. . .