From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Correspondence between web-pages and Info-pages Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <877fxxdjhu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> <548A6893.4020403@cs.ucla.edu> <87tx11dwa4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141212102415.GB19998@thyrsus.com> <87lhmdducc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418394923 19651 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 14:35:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 15:35:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRJL-0003Zh-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:35:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57573 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRJJ-000228-68 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRJ4-00021x-NF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:34:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRJ1-0006cn-RY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:34:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRJ1-0006cI-OG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34514 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRJ1-000745-8X; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 777BDE0669; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:34:53 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:09:32 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179908 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> If we add a command to the Info reader that will crank out the >> corresponding web page for locally installed Info documentation so that >> it can easily be cut and pasted into a reply on a public mailing list >> for reference, this will do a lot more for increased page rank to search >> engines (if they are GNU _manuals_ linked to on the project pages, they >> are of course _visible_ to search engine crawlers) than messing with its >> source language. > > Hey, I think this is a great idea: replace the "(emacs)Title" > syntax with a URL. When passed to Info, these URL would be redirected > to the local Info pages. > > The main downside is that those URLs would take up more space. But the > upside is not just greater exposure of our HTML manuals to search > engines, but also the removal of the ad-hoc (info "(emacs)Title") syntax. Both Emacs browse-url as well as gnome-open will accept something like Well, Emacs browse-url will accept info:elisp#Strings%20and%20Characters while gnome-open will accept info:elisp#Strings_and_Characters So, uh, we already have working URIs into the Info documentation. For some value of "working" and "uh". But that's not what we are talking about here. We are talking about converting those into Internet HTML links rather than local Info or HTML links (which are not all that useful for handing out). It might also be worthwhile thinking about Internet Info links but currently our Info browsers are not likely prepared for those. -- David Kastrup