From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:27:23 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <877fu2t9l0.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <828c5115-a61b-4c42-b6d5-7bdcc6a691f0@googlegroups.com> <87bnjf8enq.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427491534 12291 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2015 21:25:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 27 22:25:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ybbkn-0003fz-Qz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:25:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51993 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ybbkn-0002Q9-7p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:25:21 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!easy.in-chemnitz.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 48 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Pm8IE4VM6w2kUsTYfEaiHglNwkA= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211124 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103406 Archived-At: I'd like to apologize for my arguing style in this thread. Tho I'm not backing away from my views, I have to reprimand myself for not presenting it in a sarcasm-free way. I say this because I know there are many young programmers who eagerly read my posts, most likely admiring me, trying to emulate me, and a must here show them even the sun has spots, and even he who hacks creation itself is fallible... *pause for astonished silence* ... ;) Now, from now on I'll just comment on things that I *like*. It isn't as if there is any lack of them... My final words on this is that style is not something that should be over-analyzed. The definition of a skilled programmer is his (or her, sometimes) ability to write programs who carry out their intended task that solves a real problem. Just as you cannot tell a boxing world champ his style is bad because he doesn't throw the jab, you don't have a case against a programmer who can do what I just said. On ASCII vs. Unicode, I think there is a very strong case for ASCII but if anyone likes Unicode, by all means use it all you like, I don't see any (big) harm coming from that, just don't tell me it is better than ASCII or "computers are math, only ASCII hides it so no one noticed but us" (pseudo-quote) - this, I consider dead wrong. Hey... Why don't you Unicode and FP lovers do a new editor called "Uhacs" (for Unicode, Haskell, and Emacs) - the best thing with this editor is the development time, which is actually zero. Because when you start working on it, the result is a side-effect, which is intolerable by definition, so you have to stop :) Wait... oups, I did it again! But that joke wasn't rude, was it? Rather, it is funny because it is true :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573