From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 05:22:44 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <877fsh15h7.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <554C9356.5000204@gmail.com> <20150508125314086261755@bob.proulx.com> <87bnhuc177.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431228024 32479 80.91.229.3 (10 May 2015 03:20:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 03:20:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 10 05:20:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YrHmt-0000QQ-LF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 May 2015 05:20:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrHms-0005SJ-9o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 23:20:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y6AsN6dGhZCIilwWuuuSJoE5Cv0= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:212062 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104346 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: > Has emacs changed that much? I don't think it has. > It is still very much the same. It is still an > extensible editor that uses emacs lisp for the > extension language. Some of the small details have > changed. But the concepts and most of the day to day > details are the same. It is an illusion that things are changing and that they should change. I don't see much in humankind changing since ancient Babylonia. With technology the exact same is observable: for example I write this with Emacs (Lisp - 50s; Emacs, C - 70s) on Linux (again C, UNIX - 70s). One thing beginners should stop caring about is what things are old, new, "modern", etc. Just as in human life, where young morons make old morons, that doesn't matter, what matters is how good something is and what you can do with it with time and effort. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573