martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

> ... you never get an initial scroll bar, it would be indeed hard to
> check that.  IIRC running Emacs from a console logs GTK errors in the
> console output.  Can you try that?  Also could you send us screenshots
> of your initial scroll-bar-less frame and the one where a scroll bar is
> halfway visible somewhere in a window.

From a console or from an xterm? From an xterm I get nothing output at
all.

Initial frame: