From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add prettify symbols to python-mode Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:56:29 +0200 Message-ID: <877fng9afm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <1442777283-27514-1-git-send-email-mvoteiza@udel.edu> <20150921005306.GA29147@holos> <87h9mlwt6l.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83bnctliay.fsf@gnu.org> <83oagtjemn.fsf@gnu.org> <87oagt84e7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83mvwdjc5v.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2rh81c5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83io71j5wt.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv249b7i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83fv24kjc8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443038207 24467 80.91.229.3 (23 Sep 2015 19:56:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 19:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 23 21:56:42 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zeq9g-0000yh-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:56:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50360 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zeq9f-0006rQ-TZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zeq9c-0006r6-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zeq9b-0007eX-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:56:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zeq9Z-0007cY-4M; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:56:33 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52701 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zeq9W-0007zb-9I; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 33C50E0F08; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:56:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83fv24kjc8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:48:39 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190310 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > From: David Kastrup > >> Which is supposed to resemble perfectly ordinary C code or perfectly >> ordinary Lisp code? > > No, it's supposed to be mnemonically easy to understand and write. > And yes, it's reasonably close to ordinary C code, IMO. C is a language with more operators than just function calls. >> You can call it a "non-issue" all you like, but it is limiting the >> number of people comfortable working with the Emacs C core. As long >> as Emacs is expressive enough outside of the core, that's not really >> limiting its usefulness all that much, but for things like new window >> systems, one clearly cannot get around investing into C. > > I don't see it that way, but in any case, people should try overcoming > that obstacle. It's not very hard. There is not much to gain by basing one's plans on "people should" rather than "people will". -- David Kastrup