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From: Rolf Ade <rolf@pointsman.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to test if the current line contains only white-spache?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:54:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fle6qnc.fsf@linux-qg7d.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.202.1447899839.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org


Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
> Rolf Ade <rolf@pointsman.de> writes:
>
>> Lesser moving the point around may help in finding
>> a better solution.
>
> Intuitively, it feels good not moving the point around
> too much from Elisp.

Yes, this is, what my instinct also telling me. But this instinct was
trained by other programming languages and environments. I'm aware, that
it may be not applicable to emacs lisp / emacs.

> Because, moving point around emulates how a human
> would solve the problem interactively (i.e., with the
> keyboard) contrary to how a computer could just access
> the data exactly where it is without any detour.

It's not so much the "moving point around emulates how a human would
solve the problem interactively" aspect, that feels suspicious to
me. It's more the "doing things by banking on side effects of function
calls" aspect (the "side effect" I'm talking about is moving the point
around).

For example within the emacs lisp code, I'm working atm I've a defun,
that moves point, then remembers the current point position, then calls
another defun, that further moves the point around and then back again
in my first defun I'm working on the so defind region.

Discussing programming concepts at such 'meta level' is difficult. But
maybe some may express their thinking about this. Is this 'moving point
around' in emacs lisp programming code the "right thing" to do (just
wrap it into a save-excursion and you're fine) or is it a signal, that I
haven't found the "right" way to takle the problem at hand with emacs
lisp?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-19 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-14 16:11 How to test if the current line contains only white-spache? Rolf Ade
2015-11-14 18:42 ` Barry Margolin
2015-11-15 13:29   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-16 21:15     ` Philipp Stephani
2015-11-25 13:58     ` looking-at-p slower than looking-at Nicolas Richard
2015-11-25 20:34       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-25 21:28         ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-25 21:32           ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-26 13:37         ` Nicolas Richard
2015-11-25 22:39       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-11-26 13:58         ` Nicolas Richard
     [not found]     ` <mailman.675.1448463102.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-25 15:48       ` Barry Margolin
2015-11-25 20:39         ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-15 19:18   ` How to test if the current line contains only white-spache? Rolf Ade
2015-11-17  0:26     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-11-17 20:38       ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.23.1447720376.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-19  1:56       ` Rolf Ade
2015-11-19  2:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-19  2:18           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-11-19  2:23         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]         ` <mailman.202.1447899839.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-19 13:54           ` Rolf Ade [this message]
2015-11-19 15:20             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-19 23:58               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-11-20  6:14                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-21  2:26                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.279.1447976946.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-20  0:48                 ` How to test if the current line contains only white-space? Rolf Ade
2015-11-21  2:02                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.375.1448070734.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-21  2:28                     ` Rolf Ade
2015-11-24  3:01                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-11-20  0:48                 ` Rolf Ade
2015-11-26 17:51         ` How to test if the current line contains only white-spache? Alex Bennée
2015-11-26 23:59           ` predicates (was: Re: How to test if the current line contains only white-spache?) Emanuel Berg
     [not found]           ` <mailman.787.1448581762.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-27  4:28             ` predicates Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-11-27 19:52               ` predicates Emanuel Berg
2015-11-15  5:56 ` How to test if the current line contains only white-spache? Yuri Khan
2015-11-15  9:18 ` John Mastro
2015-11-25 14:04 ` Nicolas Richard
2015-11-25 20:36   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-25 22:41   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] ` <mailman.676.1448463105.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-26 15:24   ` Rolf Ade

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