From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog and the release branch Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:36:14 +0100 Message-ID: <877fl2pagx.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> References: <56538D97.80905@cs.ucla.edu> <87bnakgwvq.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <877fl7lbjk.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83610rz7pq.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4dkjwpn.fsf@yagnesh.org> <83mvtzuclk.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnaepckp.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <83oaeepbhi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448714193 1706 80.91.229.3 (28 Nov 2015 12:36:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hi@yagnesh.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 13:36:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a2ejm-0006VG-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:36:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60568 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2ejp-0002FB-9o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:36:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54403) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2ejl-0002F6-TH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:36:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2eji-0001Ra-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:36:21 -0500 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:36626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2eji-0001RT-C8; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:36:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=GVy6dKOsX3rDBw9Z5bpJu43FJQlYmYvCfGzQyMclPgU=; b=qJwSukPvJqJ+TSy8jryHDVVsKX1zbpni2CMlY1qB+eZflI6XMffibOvX2Urj/Y4Jnp97EWGzLxBuKOl2LrYfkBS3N2f8V2dIMJKNw4E4slePU37hoITS8a0G79FKVuJu; Original-Received: from ip4d1645ea.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.22.69.234] helo=isaac.fritz.box) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a2ejg-0005vU-0D; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:36:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83oaeepbhi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:14:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.45.97.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195458 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Engster >> Cc: Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala , >> bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Paul Eggert > >> >> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:50:46 +0100 >> >> > How do you store the diffs in Git notes? You can't easily write diffs >> > by hand, so some script is needed to generate them and put them there. >> >> I don't think you would store a diff there but the complete, corrected >> ChangeLog. > > That, too, needs some help, no? It's easy to format ChangeLog entries > when actually editing a ChangeLog file. It's probably harder to do > that when editing a Git note. Yes, AFAIK there's no support for git notes in Emacs. >> If someone is volunteering to actually set this up and deal with the >> aftermath of people struggling with 'git notes', then yes. > > Could you tell what that "struggling" entails? I never used Git > notes, so I don't know what difficulties and gotchas this could > present. See above: no support in plain Emacs, so people would have to do it via CLI or some other means. And last I checked, which admittedly was years ago, notes were poorly supported by git. Notes are a bit similar to tags, meaning you have to explicitly push to the 'refs/tags' refspec. Fortunately, you don't have to know that, because 'git push' has the '--tags' switch which does that automatically. But there's no such switch for notes, so you have to explicitly push to 'refs/notes'. It even gets more weird when you want to 'fetch' notes, which requires you to say something like git fetch origin refs/notes/*:refs/notes/* On top of that, there's no real support for merging notes. Maybe things have improved in the meantime, but we can't count on people to always use up-to-date git versions. -David