From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release from master Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:42:13 +0100 Message-ID: <877fidwaka.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <8qegda3kfg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83h9i695n5.fsf@gnu.org> <87si118q6e.fsf@gnus.org> <877fid5u3e.fsf@gmx.us> <87bn7pwgaj.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87y4atqq25.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455072179 21504 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 02:42:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 02:42:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 03:42:47 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTKju-0001rt-Nb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:42:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34743 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTKjq-0001t3-I1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:42:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52875) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTKjb-0001qd-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:42:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTKjX-0005x9-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:42:26 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTKjW-0005ww-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:42:22 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTKjT-0001Vc-UQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:42:20 +0100 Original-Received: from 1.red-83-38-42.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.38.42.1]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:42:19 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 1.red-83-38-42.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:42:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1.red-83-38-42.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MKrt3amZW6IF+sXCZvkLqIXp200= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199662 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Emacs is an editor. When introducing new features, the trivial thing to > test is whether "it works". The complicated thing, and that needs many > eyes, is whether something "works right". Only humans can say whether a > feature feels like it's getting in the way of getting things done, or > whether it feels like the right thing to do. Exactly. And developing features on `master' entirely bypasses the "it works" phase, and that is a recipe for disaster. A dangerous change should be on a branch until "it works" (*), then merged to see if it "works right" (**). If the developer recruits some volunteers to see if it "works right" for them before the merge, that's even better. * An honest "it works", not a "QA is boring, let others do that." ** Some merges should require an approval by the maintainer. This is no different from how things are done now. See the cases of the xwidget branch, the ffi branch...