From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22295: viper-mode undo bug introduced between Nov 10 and Nov 14 Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 09:52:07 +0100 Message-ID: <877fet5ao8.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <83vb2h6lfq.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3d56jrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87poso7nf5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <57378626.8060205@cs.stonybrook.edu> <87vb2g9xx5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <57378F7F.2040803@cs.stonybrook.edu> <878tzauyag.fsf@russet.org.uk> <573A9250.8020504@cs.stonybrook.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463475216 11391 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2016 08:53:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 08:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22295@debbugs.gnu.org, jim@meyering.net To: Michael Kifer Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 17 10:53:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b2akl-0007fY-Lx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Original-Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118]:46425 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1b2ajp-000PdS-VY; Tue, 17 May 2016 09:52:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <573A9250.8020504@cs.stonybrook.edu> (Michael Kifer's message of "Mon, 16 May 2016 23:38:56 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118345 Archived-At: Michael Kifer writes: > On 05/16/2016 05:50 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > OK. I don't remember this very clearly but there are cases (which I > don't remember) where viper-mode gets kicked in implicitly for buffers > where the user didn't ask it to and where it is not wanted. Maybe when > one runs emacs in batch mode as a scripting tool. AFAIK, noninteractive *only* happens in batch. Perhaps there are other circumstances. > One can defeat viper-mode in that case using emacs -q, but maybe there > are other cases. > Since I don't remember and since it is not good to have kludges > around, one way to figure it out is to comment out the (not > interactive) part and then see what happens. If and when you see > undesired behavior, then uncomment and document :-) I might well try that on master. We really need some unit tests for viper; it was be a shame if Jim's examples just got archived in the bug tracker. Phil