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From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 23785@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23785: Emacs 25: "Undo" overdoes things.
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:23:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fdny0ew.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160617174535.GD3316@acm.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 17 Jun 2016 17:45:35 +0000")

Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> Hello, Eli.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 08:15:18PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:02:45 +0000
>> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
>
>> > Summary: `undo' is broken in Emacs 25.
>
>> > In GNU Emacs 25.0.94.2 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.7)
>> >  of 2016-06-07 built on acm
>> > Repository revision: 9d5ccebeba0506f7280662630f0ee85a52c8a327
>> > Configured using:
>> >  'configure --with-tiff=no --with-gif=no --with-gpm'
>
>> > 1. emacs -Q
>> > 2. C-x C-f decls-6.cc    ; file is attached.
>> > 3. Move point to BOL 17.
>> > 4. C-o, and insert the line "Type var = init;".  Call this line 16½.
>> > 5. M-x revert-buffer.
>> > 6. Move point to "[" on L16, and use C-M-k to delete "[3 * peq]".
>> > 7. C-_.  This restores "[3 * peq]" (correctly) but also reinserts line
>> >    16½ (which is a bug).
>
>> Why does this minor issue deserve to declare 'undo' "broken"?  Looks
>> like an exaggeration to me.
>
> I don't think it's all that minor an issue.  `undo' can no longer be
> depended upon to restore a buffer to its unchanged state.
>
> I've suffered several similar annoyances with `undo' in the emacs-25
> branch.

If you report them, then I will look at them, and I would appreciate if
you do report them. I changed undo in a way that *was* supposed to
change its semantics, and this may have had negative side effects. Or my
changes may have caused unexpected changes in semantics that I did not
intend.


> Each buffer changing command is meant to have its own undo boundary
> (with the exception of self-insert-command and the single character
> deleting command).


The problem in this case seems to be specific to revert-buffer. A much
simpler test case is as follows

1) Open a file with a single line in it
2) Add a new line at the start
3) M-x revert-buffer

Look at buffer-undo-list



*** Before undo changes

(nil
 ("\n" . -1)
 (#<marker at 1 in simple-example.txt> . -1)
 (#<marker at 1 in simple-example.txt> . -1)
 (#<marker in no buffer> . -1)
 nil
 (1 . 2)
 (t 22372 26717 127527 392000))

*** After undo changes

(("\n" . -1)
 (#<marker at 1 in simple-example.txt> . -1)
 (#<marker at 1 in simple-example.txt> . -1)
 nil
 (1 . 2)
 (t 22372 26717 127527 392000))


So, the issue seems to be specific to M-x revert-buffer. After my
changes, the list no longer has a undo-boundary as its first element.
Got to be honest, I am surprised that M-x revert-buffer maintains the
undo-list; I'd have expected it to blitz the whole list, but it doesn't.

No idea why, although I suspect that it's the same issue Stefan found
with viper -- undo-boundary no longer gets called after all commands
only those that change the buffer.

I will investigate.

Phil





  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-17 15:02 bug#23785: Emacs 25: "Undo" overdoes things Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-17 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-17 17:45   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-17 20:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-17 21:47       ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-18  4:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18  7:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-18 18:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18 19:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-18 19:52               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 22:45                 ` bug#23785: Emacs 25: 'Undo' " Phillip Lord
2016-06-20  0:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 12:47                     ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-20 14:04                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 15:03                   ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-20 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-20 17:12                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-21 13:17                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-21 14:30                           ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-21 21:25                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-21 22:08                           ` Phillip Lord
2020-09-04 14:03                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-05 13:15                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 13:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-21 14:29                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-21 16:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-17 21:23     ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2016-06-18 17:41       ` bug#23785: Emacs 25: "Undo" " Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-17 21:49     ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-06-20 12:33       ` Phillip Lord

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