It's identical to just "-Q", which is to be expected, since the default scale is 2. Except that the menu texts are twice as large, which is not expected. So the menu bar font thing is somehow relying on the environment variable, even if there are no checks for it any more? Urr. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no