From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of Lao script Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:13:23 +0200 Message-ID: <877evnqvu4.fsf@gmx.net> References: <877evndf9x.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508685691 18721 195.159.176.226 (22 Oct 2017 15:21:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:21:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 22 17:21:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6I3v-00033C-Kk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:21:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33265 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6I42-0004v3-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:21:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55485) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6I3L-0004uw-NN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6I3I-0000fC-Ha for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:57529) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6I3H-0000eq-VM; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:20:36 -0400 Original-Received: from rosalinde ([83.135.24.137]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MXr3H-1djpYq3rJX-00Wosw; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:13:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877evndf9x.fsf@gnu.org> (handa's message of "Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:37:14 +0900") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OdwYbJ4RYEuRWdPefZ1GKwx/o/uNmxmscnNAWX0EtnM0a+Br2zF zK8MnDB41eizFHbctWgC8zZMffD/JgBGu1wTblDU+axJPobZxQiDqMSkhgPNUNunwq8o/tb /V9/jFUSQEQBTd1yDxuloFXzOUdnvd2UUptQBC+FFPHXBacXN1NU+mSX0t4bxf4FibSLUf/ 8WnqPfSipz6xY4KnuWwZA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Juy2htJ7+dk=:zHF3z0FxWBeO8dEI/5YFdY 3dAQ4e50pqo11IyUYao6cZXONSiYADLuC6Ilofb6Q7du77/20GVr98QuZUHSCwEampoETOdk/ lAQ+cKyYsgoJZ2KmCOZlHdjPHM3s7tkUfwKwtqkY9Ru+DdY/xsJSNYAnImtzXYt+1bRRo/wW0 FlgyjK7pYj311rcL89jNbYRLjYwMhXCRMgUx6j0WtveFFN1FXIXwW1oFDiYt9wgUsvdphPUjN IJk+3Gwv+gqPXRcTuGB7QJQhSZ3qEQzJI/5ZiBJMKMba1XCRekkrx1xCLD3nnj++5HAf/eo39 HK6mqFdLxbrIYPP1ZZsjHTYf4zBEykhXJBCouNaBpvXoAvpTUYveTyoaDgOKZmuIPdL/5X0ZA 47hSM+qY+7jcBzHJI3xLmkvtQ+9KHy0frNOWC8KRCO4XGnnVu/y38Ft7IduPndMaGPRmOaKsV 6MSKa38OoTS54np1ZzYK9kwlpD/0VJutMLLrGaPrPMaPAr6Bz+GdqZfIba6rfHiIYFrs6LMN6 127BevIG9gwmBCd80UcNR5kUQha64I7DhzpRTqUcR+npJ0C4UBNHmpGr8DfTj7ZyryiU4oNfn hD/s8UPRW3J6oNPERiWQ+gMtu0pyV5O11XChVAt6sKEjPetpm+NXCgltLOHoKH2uEFYFv6avN JqJdB1wGUN1+4cupkgduk7g6Dvg2qAmsvaEru6boL5lKc+JC6wE2MoLdsKT6Vb81qfmdYPpDS oUFwg25TmVFF89FOjACfwRZhFvbEjbkkAilh3T0nvIViQ4oC70/5CfcA0wBwjVCAVKOWwdiK X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.19 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219675 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:37:14 +0900 handa wrote: > In article <87po9irqej.fsf@gmx.net>, Stephen Berman writes: > >> I haven't yet tried a font specialized for Lao, but I did try Symbola, >> and with that the Lao HELLO example appears as it does in Emacs without >> m17n-lib and libotf (with one exeption, see below) -- though the font >> used to display the Lao is not Symbola but DejaVu Sans. Then I realized >> what the difference is: Symbola is a variable pitch font, while my >> default font is DejaVu Sans Mono (also the default with -Q). And >> indeed, using DejaVu Sans (not Mono) as the default font displays the >> Lao as in Emacs without m17n-lib and libotf (but in the latter Emacs >> it's the same display also with DejaVu Sans Mono) -- with the exception >> of the character LAO LETTER HO SUNG, which is composed with LAO TONE MAI >> THO, but in the display, the latter appears over the following >> character, while in the Emacs without m17n-lib and libotf it appears >> over the character it is composed with (which I assume is correct). The >> other three character compositions in the Lao example appear the same in >> Emacs both without and with m17n-lib and libotf -- but again, in the >> latter only with variable pitch DejaVu Sans. So this does seem to be a >> problem in the m17n-lib and/or libotf code. > > In my environment, Lao can be rendered correctly by Dejavu Sans Mono > (see the attached image). Please run Emacs as this, and show me the > printed log: > > % MDEBUG_DATABASE=1 MDEBUG_FLT=1 emacs Attached. 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