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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d11-v6sm1915872itb.6.2018.07.06.04.47.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 04:47:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83va9sln3t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 06 Jul 2018 12:39:18 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148250 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I agree. I think the solution is to simplify the interface somewhat. > > These additional features weer added just recently, so I see no reason > why we should remove them now. Certainly not because the doc string > needs to be fixed. >> As it stands, we're trying to cram a lot of functionality into the >> prefix argument, and the encoding is too difficult to remember (both in >> terms of implementing & documenting, as well as for using). > > I had no difficulty bringing the doc string in line with the > implementation, please take a look. Thanks, I think that fixes all the typos and mistaken descriptions. I am still of the opinion that the prefix args apart from C-u are too complicated to be of much use. But we can wait a bit longer and maybe the next formatting feature will be the straw that breaks the proverbial camel's back.