From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bloat in Windows (revisited) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 22:31:52 +0100 Message-ID: <877e9pxjcn.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <874l53g0yk.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83y32erdlt.fsf@gnu.org> <87imtieaiv.fsf@russet.org.uk> <871s01uo4c.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="96429"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nikolay Kudryavtsev Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 13 23:40:09 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hbXS4-000OsQ-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 23:40:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hbXS3-0003kl-2x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hbXK8-0006g2-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:31:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hbXK7-0001zj-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:44566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hbXK6-0001xu-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:31:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uLdpJFrm9E52cXwu7csOlvDDNycOdHkVcUp/HLsRRp4=; b=XKf4/UCyEL2qrWBA7nJSLhF9S cjGjKxy4Lij9oUSjfxB4BPZGlmGGAXitRRwX7DJJgfPNszIsqUzR/HCApNW9YEPd2Hkam1SQZNnc3 d7Iu9QLbuvZjViKXuHP8xjxHu6JZ/Qvq/HPYLnknB24hN1huf8+S+O6P9YK4ekvQukrZzdEz85bx6 XIi1dp6F2D9JPINGKBSWENQRE9KhQ5BmfH8Ou5O6vxYhCBHrSGNzIQwIPGlZdPxow2Ii9EBHgGDLB hdWvzpsUvWQCDdsnJBBRI0N+BndL8VGHF4QI+U5SDzjdnMeeEcl6kf6/hfT1vPKcIj91NsGD/AzjP CvXM5ODJQ==; Original-Received: from cpc142652-benw12-2-0-cust953.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.21.43.186]:51184 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hbXK5-0007gV-C5; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 22:31:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Nikolay Kudryavtsev's message of "Thu, 13 Jun 2019 20:27:25 +0300") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237555 Archived-At: Nikolay Kudryavtsev writes: > Yes, so far it's windows only, but I'm definitely planning to get > Linux to Windows cross-compilation working. And building sources > too. You probably have some notes on doing those two things, would you > be willing to share them with me? Sure. The code is all in admin/nt/dist-build, as are the setup instructions. > Bootstraping is another thing I was planing to implement at some > point, probably using Guile. > > Also Phillip, you you ever need any help with testing on Windows, feel > free to email me directly. I'd probably be willing to help with that. It's always good to get testing -- either of the releases or the snapshots. I post about those here, first. > Another thing I was thinking about in the long run, is turning that > script into a more generic build tool, so that you could provide > scripts for building not just Emacs, but other GNU and similar > software. For example a script for Guile would be nice, since there's > no official Windows distribution and then making plugins for different > Unix package managers would be great. A variation on my build scripts would do that, I think. Currently, I just build out of source and then zip everything up. Most of it is not emacs specific; with some fiddling, it would work for any autoconf'd package. At the end of the day, though, I think software like guile is probably better support within an msys2 distribution with a package manager. Phil