From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38381: 27.0.50; Bump Gnus version to 5.14, properly encode group names on disk Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:50:11 -0800 Message-ID: <877e3nxxz0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87blszy0fs.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ftibjyhu.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="160829"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38381@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 01:51:37 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP4q-000fhF-RA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 01:51:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49394 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP4n-0002NS-Dq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:51:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP4K-0002NI-5P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP4I-0007gz-9n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:51:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44015) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP4I-0007gj-6X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP4H-0000iQ-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:51:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38381 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38381-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38381.15747294212704 (code B ref 38381); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38381) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2019 00:50:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49988 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP3d-0000hY-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:50:21 -0500 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:59216 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP3b-0000hI-Ih for 38381@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 303D0FA087; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:50:13 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87ftibjyhu.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 26 Nov 2019 01:02:37 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:172406 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Now Emacs 27.1 is on its way, and I would really like to make this >> change permanent. The attached patch moves all the ugly compatibility >> code into an upgrade routine as part of `gnus-convert-old-newsrc'. Users >> will be prompted once to upgrade, and then the various files will be >> fixed to use properly encoded group names, and you won't be able to go >> back. > > I don't think that's a good idea. The .newsrc.eld file should remain > backwards compatible -- people do move back and forth between newer and > older versions of Emacs. Okay, but there is a whole upgrade mechanism in place that's specifically for upgrading the .newsrc.eld file to a new version, so this wouldn't be the first time it's happened. That said, the current situation seems to be working fine; if we've got to keep it, we've got to keep it. I'd like to keep this bug report open, though. Eric