From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Nordin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38601: describe-mode never says the most important thing Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:00:11 +0100 Message-ID: <877e2xtfkk.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <87d0crpzxg.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <23f279f3-f2a6-6327-b1eb-0d167cdfad22@orcon.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="185320"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: Phil Sainty , =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson , 38601@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 15 23:01:25 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1igbx4-000m2m-M6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:01:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43282 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1igbx3-0000qJ-7P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:01:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1igbwl-0000p6-68 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:01:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1igbwk-0003qr-71 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1igbwj-0003qg-Ol for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1igbwj-0001tO-NN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:01:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tomas Nordin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 22:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38601 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38601-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38601.15764472227163 (code B ref 38601); Sun, 15 Dec 2019 22:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38601) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2019 22:00:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1igbw6-0001rT-Ce for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:52883) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1igbw4-0001qw-4q for 38601@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:00:21 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E81D240100 for <38601@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:00:13 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1576447213; bh=JGRHW0vBI0BxeSo/+/aWMYx12ObLoqinHBbJRiJamPg=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=hCKETr3awk+YmcGo4YTf9e6qzu5hZ4rgO5bXGNG9LNr+wOAgEIPjK6UM+ea8c5b04 0MO35sEYTJVuc98AxOvir9tbNogZEbddO0/As1TPExJ8+meoemMgEqAuOqhWKww6Wn GF2suiihwso3KvBIFRrh6aE7Oy0gFgdUM3fGoUFzJJMcCOeGPmSdVNEIwihyobxTbo pqgWYxWXrqn73pf0wSFZvtm90gvoJj85prZMFxrbFc1FofZFrXEbg5RrYQUiBw+lBa e+hEAT4YMsRRDAH+pniWoPeMDZJh6hoiZWrhXxRcmgYHDOJNw+FNJ3dUQyIssJUfl2 XDxHroWfk44CQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 47bdcX3GRgz9rxM; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:00:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <23f279f3-f2a6-6327-b1eb-0d167cdfad22@orcon.net.nz> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173401 Archived-At: Phil Sainty writes: > (I do think there's an argument for showing the mode symbol rather > than a capitalised variant of the name in the `describe-mode' help; > but that's a different conversation.) A different conversation but I didn't see that so I take the opportunity to agree here. The capitalized variants of the command name was always confusing to me -- is it the command name, only with a big letter in the beginning, or is it some sort of doxy description that is not the same as the command name. Easy to check, but anyway. The help for a specific function has a different approach, not capitalized. Best regards -- Tomas