From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cairo now default? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244696 Archived-At: >>>>> Robert Pluim writes: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 11:21:37 +0000, Colin Baxter = said: Colin> The configure warning: Colin> "This configuration uses the Cairo graphics library, but not Colin> the HarfBuzz font shaping library. We recommend the use of Colin> HarfBuzz when using Cairo, please install HarfBuzz Colin> development packages." Colin> occurs at the end of the list of configured options and then Colin> scrolls up disappearing from the screen before the configure Colin> command ends. It's easily missed and the user who doesn't Colin> have HarfBuzz ends up puzzled, with a working emacs but one Colin> that looks unfamiliar and ugly. > Not here it=CA=BCs not, it=CA=BCs the very last thing printed by conf= igure, > just after the mailutils warning. Yes, you're right - my mistake. Colin> If cairo has to be the default - and I don't understand why - Colin> is this going to be emphasised in the INSTALL file of the Colin> subsequent distribution? > It=CA=BCs better than the alternative, which is libXft, which is > unmaintained and causes crashes. Ok, so be it. I still think this change, as it stands, is going to catch out a fair number of users. We will see. Best wishes,