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[45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t13sm4689241qkm.60.2020.02.28.02.04.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 28 Feb 2020 02:04:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83blpjgnd5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 28 Feb 2020 09:52:22 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176562 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> As described in @ref{Local Keymaps}, major modes and minor modes can >> -define local keymaps. These keymaps are constructed when the mode is >> -used for the first time in a session. > This loses useful information in the sentence that starts with "These > keymaps". I moved that information to the next paragraph: + Since a mode's keymaps are not constructed until it has been loaded, (I think "until it has been loaded" is more accurate than "used for the first time", since the file can be loaded without actually using the mode defined within.)