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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: "積丹尼 Dan Jacobson" <jidanni@jidanni.org>, 44273@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB"
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:02:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dravck1.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7B559E59-D3CA-4515-B17C-336029B7FBFA@acm.org> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Wed, 28 Oct 2020 11:53:31 +0100")

Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org> writes:

> I'm all for removing it, but there is the usual howling crowd
> insisting that it is indispensable and highly meaningful on their
> machine and how dare we even think of changing anything in Emacs. Good
> luck.

:-)  That's quite common, yes, and sometimes it's justified, even.

> That's why bug#36729 was closed as wontfix. (This is a duplicate.)

I didn't see any howling in that bug report, though?  I just skimmed it
quickly.

As an aside: The general design of dired is frustrating.  Dumping
whatever the system "ls" gives us into a buffer and then trying to make
do isn't a good approach.

The argument that Tramp needs to parse "ls" output is valid, and that
"ls" is faster than `ls-lisp' is, too, but it's still backwards: Dired
should take a well-defined data structure and then render it according
to however the user wants.

The data can come from `ls-lisp', but it could also come from "ls": We
just need to write a parser that parses the data.  That's infinitely
more viable than the gazillion tweaks we've added to dired to do the
right thing if "-F" adds "@" at the end or not, etc etc etc.  All the
nasty parsing stuff would be contained to a single parsing function and
not infest all of dired.

Anyway.  Implementing this is left as a weekend project for somebody.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-28 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-28  5:12 bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB" 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-28 10:37 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 10:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 10:53     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 11:02       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2020-10-28 11:18         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 11:23           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 11:47             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-28 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 12:18                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 12:26                   ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-28 12:29                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 15:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  8:36               ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-28 14:39           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-28 14:49             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 15:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31  9:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:55       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-28 15:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  0:03           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29  3:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  8:48               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-30  3:05               ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30  7:18                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-30  8:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:33                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 11:33                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-31 19:14                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 11:38                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-01 11:55                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 15:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 15:41                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 15:51                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 16:37                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 19:25                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-10-11 12:35                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-01 19:16                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 18:57                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 19:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:38                               ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-11-01 19:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:51                                   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-31  4:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30 19:03                   ` Drew Adams
2020-11-03  3:17                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-03 18:39                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-03 19:51                         ` Drew Adams
2020-11-04 19:41                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-04 20:53                             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 11:34       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29  4:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30 12:22   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 12:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 13:39       ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-30 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 14:54           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-31  0:12           ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-31  4:45             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-31  4:47         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-31  4:47     ` Richard Stallman

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