* bug#44482: 28.0.50; Confusing syntax warning in ELisp mode
@ 2020-11-06 13:54 Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-09 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-11-06 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 44482
emacs -Q
Insert into *scratch*:
(insert (quux (foobar foo)
this) "\n")
Observe that "\n" and the following parentheses are highlighted in
red -- the font-lock-warning-face. Move the mouse pointer to the
highlighted text, obserbe the following tooltip:
Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?
It took me quite some time to understand what this tries to tell me.
The key problems with this seem to be:
. "Hidden behind deeper element" is unclear, because neither
"hidden" nor "deeper" have any immediately obvious relation to the
code.
. "Move to another line" is not clear because "another" is the wrong
word here. It is also not clear that the question indicates a
suggestion. This could perhaps be improved by using something
like "suggest to re-indent to move it to the next line".
It would be nice to make this warning clearer. (I personally think
the issue is so minor that it hardly justifies a warning, but if we do
show a warning, let's at least make it clear.)
In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 741, i686-pc-mingw32)
of 2020-11-06 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7
Repository revision: af6891629d48f348b6458384898a637cc7ce16e7
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600)
Configured using:
'configure -C --prefix=/d/usr --with-wide-int --with-modules
--enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -gdwarf-4 -g3''
Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY W32NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2
HARFBUZZ ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2
Important settings:
value of $LANG: ENU
locale-coding-system: cp1255
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
eldoc-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs
rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail
rmail-loaddefs auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs
eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map text-property-search time-date
subr-x seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv mm-decode mm-bodies
mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs
cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils
tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars
term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode
prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer
select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang
misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms
cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian
cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button
loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay
sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty
make-network-process emacs)
Memory information:
((conses 16 59084 10220)
(symbols 48 7910 1)
(strings 16 21720 2787)
(string-bytes 1 631708)
(vectors 16 12458)
(vector-slots 8 167771 9582)
(floats 8 24 41)
(intervals 40 402 207)
(buffers 888 11))
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* bug#44482: 28.0.50; Confusing syntax warning in ELisp mode
2020-11-06 13:54 bug#44482: 28.0.50; Confusing syntax warning in ELisp mode Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-11-09 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-09 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-11-09 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 44482
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Observe that "\n" and the following parentheses are highlighted in
> red -- the font-lock-warning-face. Move the mouse pointer to the
> highlighted text, obserbe the following tooltip:
>
> Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?
>
> It took me quite some time to understand what this tries to tell me.
Yes, it's not very clear. I've now changed it to
"Easy to misread; consider moving the element to the next line"
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#44482: 28.0.50; Confusing syntax warning in ELisp mode
2020-11-09 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-11-09 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-11-09 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44482
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: 44482@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:51:26 +0100
>
> > Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?
> >
> > It took me quite some time to understand what this tries to tell me.
>
> Yes, it's not very clear. I've now changed it to
>
> "Easy to misread; consider moving the element to the next line"
Much better, thanks.
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