From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: require (was: Re: Hooks in minor modes) Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 08:09:57 +0200 Message-ID: <877dkjdlxm.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87wnsktmqp.fsf@zoho.eu> <87sg38tmag.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87tunoictd.fsf@zoho.eu> <87mttfh224.fsf@zoho.eu> <87eeerfge1.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12053"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:WuiDtYBRwJsngONKBz8a41zZCiE= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 01 08:10:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lciq2-000343-Di for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 08:10:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46314 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lciq1-0001pR-Gv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcipS-0001oO-QO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:51888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcipQ-00074J-HX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcipK-0002KB-Ok for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 08:10:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129255 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> If I OTOH would want ~/tmp why would I try to point to that >> with "."? [...] instead I would add it hard-coded. >> but I only want ~/tmp when that's where I am and that is >> what "." means. > > Sure I got it you keep "." as it is for you a way to load > scripts from current directory wherever you are. That way > you load those from directory. > > To me that defeats the purpose of load-path, as it is normally used > from scripts script = Elisp source file? If so that's the same situation here. > loading or requiring should take place regardless of current > directory Ironically that is what is achieved here. Put A and B in the the directory and from then on that directory can be anywhere, A can still require B with "." And BTW how do _you_ think it should be done? I should put stuff a particular place, then hard-code that? Then add an installer that does it so it is exactly like that? And if the user doesn't like it - well, tough for HIM, huh, because there is nothing he can do about it, like put it somewhere else? Because, the hard-coded load paths would then be broken and the whole software, also. That better? (No.) What do you suggest? (Yes?) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal