From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Eval keymapp in a macros Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 05:18:27 +0200 Message-ID: <877dgzp8fw.fsf@web.de> References: <87bl6fy4cf.fsf@web.de> <87wnp0wyec.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 05:19:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mBqOE-0006U9-60 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 05:19:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55620 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mBqOC-0006ES-AO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2021 23:19:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mBqNV-0006Cq-GN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2021 23:18:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:37509) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mBqNT-0007aG-Ov for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2021 23:18:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1628219909; bh=MkfDnYeL8XVOZc5/uBhmp6D3piQ4+D9QYvPyWwJ7rDA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Z689IutNrwHvEKC6jW9GhFwX1dxpfnY6ZoSA8txVVmAXOmNlpk1Q/vM4bsYbTMlAz 3GXmbH4B0WZ71kzLEGK/8dogIFEQZ/rQ9+Ndwz9XLXjGS0i04vRkk/bZPNv3AWwMOg p9gqkTzl4ICWNvllG2mkmvBQvP/mBmvxjP+b5jr8= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.201.45]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lvf5Q-1nCRzs3hQS-017SA0; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 05:18:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Thu, 05 Aug 2021 08:15:28 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ukz8NXyesL3/D5hZSsXEs5pI1304PvmhRFd4v2FwYrsHHyAX6fa 8Oa97DdOvma4RQnm76tE7NpWhDhQDRohNFxpEXU9oFdhi2IgiXBGlPCD5+CHAuhyNm/NeOV lwXzfDstgObiMeYYKSHqOV+0li1J0uDcqudhPm0ouS/SGDBqunORtRXCksnPaPZGblgi76o ++r48eAveq12ZS6Oeyp9w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:pXXMGalOZGk=:Q9GW/wVMiojcPaZvu1u+e2 I6qzzi8CnWTk9BKuCYLWW7ASaAYlH/wyxrUq0vDTv1wbu8PIxQkE+NHjO+HoDLIHIYDt7yU3C QowbW6k9Th2VWRq+v0p0EBoObmvngUyDfwVCdynWFzlxID1XyBkjAE8bFaPCAYOHCTkhTQwvj JL/8GgNjZD4rt5WqQnsqTtLgN02HHXnPBtmIW7ExN+Xum0foQVVGgXpgxTPk1IsqDABJZAmwN FiWlCAoetNOTEIGTM9hL2HbjLyt5yHXK4vkTCBtvoLStuoQKGIlnEwM9wIvYEI6uoxeDFtmLM hJeMrcnuxt1LhMsWUZnuA3YaSyKWRnmETGq1XzTq4ENwbZLWVLscLHLSrweKm0qteP1JajC7d 9kfWKsORvO41M8cG4D1e8F1MmNYJKK7/qYzldktfRHTPtnqAViK4Dsf9T1Qo34M0J7rEZEk2K gWa4UJiLyRjNpE9YE/6NsWTVM2uV1500meB54fYB37/WvASoe/tOG0367ECmwPAXOx+EBH/fS aM69mu0mH1uScVd7gKbdrOA+huWbLcBVuZ8rhHI1j2MFSNQPkeS7i9/L3oxxM2QDh251jszLc WoEUDuf7mpsIdmFthgedpUwAG8YuzIrR75HDHFxqyloQKjePTB+1vvgCcVpUBFYuE3dtlrSov gcpqu5b/swKnfkSXmnIJ/pLj7ZER3CExTvuCI+YcPg/HLOyeJcRdl4Oy1LcMqnwmfk0HGaQjV PmI5MfQp7GQQ4ihQOjXaLOUce+bELufBdLXxF+jEolo+rEaicK9eR+PjtFisloswSC1i7NmC Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.4; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132372 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > Yes, I agree, and it is confusing to other people to see stuff without > quotes and dashes, as I saw in that mentioned reddit thread. The problem I mean is that when you later want to search where you bound command XY, you can't just grep for define-key.*XY or so, it's harder to find stuff afterwards. So while your file gets marginally smaller it also gets harder to navigate. Seems most people come to the conclusion, over the years, that such abbreviations are not worth it. Happened to me as well. If you do this kind of thing in a lot of places you risk a big mess in your init file. Michael.