From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50811: 28.0.50; Misleading Docstring for read-string function Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 06:22:21 +0200 Message-ID: <877df2ps02.fsf@gnus.org> References: <_54OEp0LYzdxgXLLnOGpPKIfp0dH3AVBE0pzUGBTFZW_r1v5IQw7Vf4Ij-ugCTXUw-UVAneeffL-Kt1PV2XuwrSeFXFllKCypAD2pZ1cQZs=@codrut.pro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10941"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 50811@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Codru=C8=9B?= Constantin =?UTF-8?Q?Gu=C8=99oi?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 06:23:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUiAa-0002eu-Ve for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 06:23:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33542 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUiAZ-0003Oq-1g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUiAQ-0003OZ-LQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56039) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUiAQ-0004RB-EC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUiAQ-0001xo-AW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 04:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50811-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50811.16327165527482 (code B ref 50811); Mon, 27 Sep 2021 04:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50811) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2021 04:22:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUi9v-0001wb-PU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:22:32 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUi9u-0001wJ-C2 for 50811@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:22:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=nUEkjaQ4s6J8MuF8Xe1RSRMsNdTeZwM3Ol13n3EbVlg=; b=rXghAq4TInU2nWct4J8cWBRHkc 1v73ZAj1n058cqEfRjPO51+nOjQCqPigvMMdqFVmsTWEGWYL3t+PvZPGvGCUPe2UbJwK3cQoJiion +xyGcn3ke3g32JF6cj9shC8XX8fw4BcOBjtf9+S+Hqo4iIuP/vEDdjEPqcF+1QVteodM=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUi9l-0001ps-Q9; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 06:22:24 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Alice Coltrane's _Journey in Satchidananda_: "Stopover Bombay" In-Reply-To: <_54OEp0LYzdxgXLLnOGpPKIfp0dH3AVBE0pzUGBTFZW_r1v5IQw7Vf4Ij-ugCTXUw-UVAneeffL-Kt1PV2XuwrSeFXFllKCypAD2pZ1cQZs=@codrut.pro> ("=?UTF-8?Q?Codru=C8=9B?= Constantin =?UTF-8?Q?Gu=C8=99oi?="'s message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2021 08:28:05 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215628 Archived-At: Codru=C8=9B Constantin Gu=C8=99oi writes: > If non-nil, second arg INITIAL-INPUT is a string to insert before reading. > This argument has been superseded by DEFAULT-VALUE and should normally = be nil > in new code. It behaves as INITIAL-CONTENTS in `read-from-minibuffer' = (which > see). > ``` > > This is misleading since INITIAL-INPUT behaves differently from DEFAULT-V= ALUE: The doc string isn't claiming that INITIAL-INPUT behaves like DEFAULT-VALUE -- it says that you shouldn't use INITIAL-INPUT. The point is that we want to move away from pre-filled prompts in Emacs, and instead put the default in the "future history", i.e., say (read-string "PROMPT " nil nil "B") and then the user should `M-n' to edit the default. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no