From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Platform independent graphical display for Emacs Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 15:30:59 +0100 Message-ID: <877dbssqn0.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87ilvgwfor.fsf@telefonica.net> <834k6zwvi1.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7azilmu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfujh4a2.fsf@yahoo.com> <877dbuhm6j.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tueyg5gc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y24asbh4.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuexqh7w.fsf@gnu.org> <9c04ef31-96e0-1874-7385-633435a28b5f@yandex.ru> <87tuew9a29.fsf@yahoo.com> <41b80f26-9522-e723-5999-c80a94427c5e@yandex.ru> <875yrc95fo.fsf@yahoo.com> <4325730a-864c-4465-caf0-cd75abd4ef78@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22688"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ozb2DAc8IGuqgIVctROC4dj8uVA= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 25 15:32:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n185v-0005hU-Vf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 15:32:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n185u-0000OA-BW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 09:32:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n184m-0007ih-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 09:31:12 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:35356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n184l-0006qu-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 09:31:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n184j-0004Qe-AB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 15:31:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283229 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 25.12.2021 16:31, Po Lu wrote: >> Dmitry Gutov writes: >> >>> AFAIK, no ports other than PGTK have any Wayland support either. >> >>> So with the transition of GNU/Linux world from X to Wayland, we'd >>> either have drop all other ports (aside from w32 and ns, I suppose), >>> or end up dealing with this somehow anyway. >> We are not going to drop the X port. Wayland is important, but it's >> only available on a small amount of systems, certainly not all the >> Unix-like systems currently support. >> Other free systems such as FreeBSD immediately come to mind. > > PGTK still supports X. And supports well, AFAIK. > > But with it becoming increasingly irrelevant over the coming decade, > it should become more and more practical to drop the other ports. > Though I'm sure we'll be reluctant to do that. Yes. Some people write here as if time doesn't exist, as if living in some sort of static universe or on a pre-industrial age :-) I would be surprised if the proposed system were ready to be released as an experimental feature in less than 4 years. Add another 4 to stabilize before it can be considered as a replacement for the legacy graphical backends.