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From: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: using finalizers
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 21:25:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dbjkxui.fsf@logand.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh7an1jgl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Sat 01 Jan 2022 at 12:00, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> One more question: Because make-finalizer in Emacs Lisp does not take
>> the object into account,
>
> Not sure what you mean by "the object" here.

In Common Lisp, the usual semantics is: call this thunk when this object
gets collected.  I pass the object and thunk and make-finalizer does the
rest.

In Emacs Lisp, the semantics is: call this thunk when the returned
finalizer gets collected.  So, if I want to finalize my object, I have
too keep the reference to the finalizer.

>> I have to make sure to hold the reference to the finalizer somehow.
>> However, this might not be trivial, because a smart compiler could
>> eliminate the reference.
>
> And I definitely don't know what you mean by "the reference", so I have
> no idea why a smart compiler would be able to eliminate it.

In Emacs Lisp, my object itself needs to keep the finalizer around,
otherwise it would get finalized.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-01 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-30 22:43 using finalizers Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31  2:46 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31  3:29   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-31  3:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-31  4:30     ` LdBeth
2021-12-31  4:43       ` LdBeth
2021-12-31  6:28   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 10:59     ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 11:18       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 11:41         ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 12:01           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 17:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 20:25       ` Tomas Hlavaty [this message]
2022-01-01 20:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 22:55           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 23:18             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 23:47               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 23:26             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31  7:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-31  9:31     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 12:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01 17:58         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 18:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01 20:55             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 23:05               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 23:21                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-31 14:23       ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-12-31 16:21         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 17:37           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 22:36         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02  6:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02  7:53             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02  8:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 13:10                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02 14:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 15:16                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 17:18                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02 18:11           ` Rudolf Schlatte
2022-01-03  0:37             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-04  3:08               ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-31 14:39 ` LdBeth
2022-01-01 17:59   ` Tomas Hlavaty

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