From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Getting X selection reliably (Re: idea for capture anywhere in x)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:06:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877czyguhp.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tkqits$jjt$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
>> I am unsure what can be done here. AFAIU, Org just follows the %x
>> description. Nothing wrong on Org side.
>>
>> The best we can do is alternative %?? that will do something more
>> reliable. But I am unsure what it can be.
>
> Depending of particular capture template (even with :immediate-finish t)
> empty selection may or may not be an error. In Samuel's case it is an
> error. Unfortunately, while the template is processed, signaled errors
> are caught and their text is inserted into the text. That is why in my
> example I put checks outside of `org-capture'.
Are you sure? `org-get-x-clipboard' returns nil in case of error and
`org-capture-fill-template' assigns empty string to v-x when no
clipboard value can be obtained.
> We may:
> - Add a capture template option that allows errors to pass through to
> the caller. Then a user may add %(...) expression with all necessary checks.
I am not very sure what kind of errors you are talking about. AFAIU, we
are talking about scenarios when user explicitly wants one of
PRIMARY/CLIPBOARD/SECONDARY, don't we?
>>> 2. Jean pointed out that Emacs ignores X selection if it does not have
>>> an X frame. It was almost buried in the haystack of "SQL instead of Org"
>>> noise. It happens if Emacs is running as a daemon. I am unsure which way
>>> Samuel starts Emacs (xinit, systemd user session, systemd socket
>>> activation, manually, etc.)
>>
>> May we modify org-get-x-clipboard adding
>> (server-select-display (getenv \"DISPLAY\")) ?
>> Will it be enough?
>
> It will work for most of users, however sometimes it is incorrect. There
> are a number of options that should have higher priority than emacs
> server DISPLAY environment
> - emacsclient -display command line option,
> - emacsclient process DISPLAY environment,
> - emacs -display server argument.
>
> I have no idea how to get "emacs -display" argument and I need to look
> into emacsclient source and server.el to figure out which way client's
> display argument is passed to the server process.
Maybe it can be considered an Emacs bug or something to improve on Emacs
side?
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-15 0:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-08 4:22 idea for capture anywhere in x Samuel Wales
2020-09-08 5:01 ` Tim Cross
2020-09-08 5:05 ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-08 5:21 ` Tim Cross
2020-09-08 7:18 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-08 8:03 ` Diego Zamboni
2020-09-08 16:08 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-08 5:39 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-08 22:40 ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-09 4:52 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-10 14:23 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-12 8:48 ` Nick Econopouly
2022-06-10 2:35 ` Samuel Wales
2022-06-10 9:59 ` Charles Philip Chan
2022-06-11 4:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13 7:46 ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-13 9:10 ` Michal Politowski
2022-06-13 10:04 ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-13 14:02 ` Michal Politowski
2022-10-12 1:09 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-09 14:47 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-09 16:40 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-09 17:08 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-10 17:16 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-10 22:06 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-11 9:11 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-12 1:09 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-15 3:40 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-26 4:40 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26 4:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-26 5:05 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26 6:05 ` desktop notifications (Re: idea for capture anywhere in x) Max Nikulin
2022-10-26 6:22 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26 7:41 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-26 8:07 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26 8:29 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-27 6:33 ` Getting X selection reliably " Max Nikulin
2022-10-28 4:59 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-28 5:16 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-28 8:39 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-28 16:38 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-28 23:07 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29 3:21 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-29 2:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29 3:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-29 6:03 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29 7:33 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-29 22:33 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29 4:50 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29 4:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29 7:44 ` desktop notifications " Max Nikulin
2022-10-29 23:07 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-30 4:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-13 4:54 ` Getting X selection reliably " Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-13 11:03 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-14 2:06 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-11-16 4:03 ` Samuel Wales
2022-11-16 16:46 ` Debugging firefox extension " Max Nikulin
2022-11-17 3:16 ` Samuel Wales
2022-11-17 9:42 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-17 16:12 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-17 7:18 ` Getting X selection reliably " Jean Louis
2022-11-17 15:30 ` Reliability of org-protocol browser extensions Max Nikulin
2022-12-04 5:21 ` Getting X selection reliably (Re: idea for capture anywhere in x) Max Nikulin
2022-10-12 17:16 ` idea for capture anywhere in x Max Nikulin
2022-10-12 20:06 ` Jean Louis
2020-09-09 8:40 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-09 21:11 ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-09 1:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
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