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[87.196.74.197]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o18-20020a05600c379200b003f17300c7dcsm8035900wmr.48.2023.05.05.06.59.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 05 May 2023 06:59:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <91595171-be7a-c52c-8909-7efe0354c572@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 4 May 2023 12:05:59 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::331; envelope-from=joaotavora@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x331.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305879 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: >>> That would make the situation even more of a mess, wouldn't it? >>> Unless you intend to drop the alias after a couple of Eglot's >>> releases. But that wouldn't be possible because both names would >>> have appeared in Emacs 29. >> Why messy? "update" and "upgrade" and used interchangeably >> anyway in speech/writing. But if it's "less messy" to revert eglot-update >> then no problem. > Here's an idea: only add the alias on master, to be in the next ELPA > release of Eglot. Then you could phase it out a couple of releases > later, before Emacs 30 is done. I added the obsolete compat alias in Emacs 29 (and soon master) in the end. I'd rather not have anyone switching back and forth from Emacs version confused about some command works in some version and not others. Can't really foresee any problems. Also renamed it to eglot-upgrade-eglot to make it more obvious. Jo=C3=A3o