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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306281 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: BTuin , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:36:13 +0000 >> >> Richard Stallman writes: >> >> > Isn't "use build systems" what M-x compile does? >> > Assuming that each bui;d system provides a shell command to invoke it, >> > M-x compile can run that command and build the package. >> >> The issue is not what M-x compile, but that with a lot of modern >> programming languages the build systems are complex but automatable, to >> a point that it would be nice if Emacs could detect the necessary >> information to invoke the right command or sequence of commands. > > You mean, to guess a good value for compile-command? Perhaps we could do so based on the major mode and the current directory. For instance, if a Makefile is present within the current directory, defaulting to `make -k' should work. Similarly, C programs can make do with just `make foo', where foo is the base name of the file being visited.