From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make aot native-compilation and pdmp creation reproduceable Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:58:30 +0200 Message-ID: <877cnug049.fsf@gmx.de> References: <83sf6kvyws.fsf@gnu.org> <877cnvu9uz.fsf@thaodan.de> <8734yju8ax.fsf@thaodan.de> <87cyxnsp27.fsf@thaodan.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35108"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= , =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 10 13:59:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qqBOh-0008vA-88 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:59:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqBNy-0001JO-Ih; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 07:58:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqBNl-0001DE-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 07:58:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqBNj-0000XB-Nv; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 07:58:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1696939111; x=1697543911; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=dghD3ZnT8YrUGI2ybtUnuXbCLGdQ07PiECAlCQbTZls=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=EHALSFSB4GX2Bk4vfEhYvLco25FmeFxp5TcYsRlbedOw9nG8KHTVH13QwHIUoxTqH0C1fbcceRX QiiE5mSkYGX2Jo4eR0Ubgdg2ut2Fnd35GkKvIyjlpDor37NS9ZhbY5ZpIzoRGHFoqALGxavp/G80H ZIZOV9t02gGnA/PFN5mTnzPzqDcsEtzJHuHMKlddJ+kPQGs7hdZ51NnKKG/lkO4ApLGFzcHHxP7au Q0V9KKpRqQauOPsAT+fS59uUCqjnRl7Dj9w/GzqzupFR6yPFyF82HA4eBaPJmuyCOOiue48lExHPQ ups6uXB7fhhTdd351voqICv4bihpJXLAyWbQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.39.30]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MiaY9-1rT4hl3XLL-00fh4W; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:58:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2023 10:39:06 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Zeqe2Kay7lLKnz+Ue1g1SfmZAK4XW3ZwEzJefcl1/0f1SmJA22M 0KgrsBaGOnLz6ZY30GepjeUSvbgZjzt0fO7F1dEUPm+rWUtb/X2DgMc2fqbtPagZafSlrk6 z8Gkvqv1GAPacL/N14Et7BFOdqhd2J1klij3o+dMdSGyxLX2CK7pNedXTRBT2QNsXRnQs56 RkR78qxRgRJXmxJoZ8JZw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:g4hljwk0F40=;3g4YOuuOxGjNJKsAgJumlc/C97Y AznLWR98P6u1SCXjA/nlhMh9eXi9QztuBpG8Vh2DGZ1kd7Vn9UHs8Q3w+TvQQN+APzLYQEQPj 2CLSp25EeVW16/kHEPiWhmLC/wk6l0joxUSfT4dJYPz/zQtqI+4LwKoN+EvZ6zKTNjZYcLE0u oIYig3SxGrxz3+F/zbLEn+YGRovE57MUfNgJXyLJo2rfKmTQxxo/FUW/IgAZv343rrNvCkKEC lMbIqpqPGVMm3fndYw60nNLqru1PZrmLMK+b7Bsegna+DgTipsLyB+AJ+Itmou85j7m3H8Q9Z lFJdWDY/A3GDd0CfYSB49GonUsJrGFDWsSeDbQJs6om/YdubgK6fMfWPta9xR/cVeqK6XazmX 8p0Gly61nyOzuot8XQPDWeVBCiNVEryV1/GY2wmWv/p9AfZcRBLE++d10qU5+GJMWM2ZplioC /YL7Xbu1ymRRLamCh9tUhNq9I9kykQLKWNa6IyGrV2IYoXhRxWoCs4p2LoFovUzo11U94eaTG 4cok60jIZOjDq1VazQ3+9k3G1Tqw+vaLH5lvO0lnv7mC/TsrzPyxmhlyW8le/IYsuboRVOS2B gj26dAvtS845avlp5Pf1GeC0/jO4Js+Ve71vIr4GclITIo8iVOnR9wfhN/UlAQkyqxHePmeD/ oy6QJ9Wf0GdhQZeaBvjO6K3RuP+BUUCvVwZfdxsrKxwydvww3bK5F9S5JEM3NBXRcHfGWMc4D FCaG1jxG15tBI7n21WdHvp5MMk/bHgstGaO5ydN8BHHwTvkKzbskth6TGRTtMDDLBXxSCdb3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311397 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > Hello, Gerd. Hi Alan, > However, when I build the same source tree in two different directories, > the results differ. In native-lisp/30.0.50-15c37793, there are ~22 .eln > files differing between the two trees. As the OP reported, one of the > differing files is native-lisp/30.0.50-15c37793/preloaded/x-win-....eln. > > The other pertinent files are: cmacexp, cpp, dictionary, el, erc, > erc-button, erc-nicks, extract, find, grammar, ia, insert, make, mode, > oc-csl, org-habit, ox-html, semantic, srt, tramp-message, utf7 (all > appended with their hex signatures and .eln). > > What do these files have in common? As pure speculation, it may be that > they communicate with external processes, somehow. Or something like > that. In tramp-message, the variables emacs-version, tramp-version, tramp-repository-branch and tramp-repository-version are used. Furthermore, (locate-library "tramp") is called. All of this should happen at runtime, but perhaps there are compile time optimizations? Best regards, Michael.