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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: Tor Erlend Fjelde <tor.github@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Feature request: IDs for everything
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:20:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cn9d40f.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a536d19-0686-486e-8d8a-33534cb79aee@gmail.com>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

>> If we simply allow id: links to point to non-headings, it will be a
>> major breaking change that may affect third-party packages. So, we
>> need to design the extended ids carefully to avoid breakage.
>
> A defcusom user options whether id:UUID links for non-heading elements 
> are allowed. It is just an opinion/idea and nothing more.

> Are ids for whole files (placed before first headings) are problematic 
> for 3rd party packages?

Fair point. Even existing id links may not always point to a heading
(when pointing to IDs in top-level property drawer). So, the potential
breakage I was talking about is already there, and third-party packages
already have to adapt.

I still do not feel confident that it will be safe to blindly change
org-id in the proposed way though. Although I cannot think of clear
examples why it would cause problems worse compared to the existing id:
links to files. So, it may just be my unmotivated concern.

>>   [[id:unique-file-id:object-id-inside-the-file]]
>
> Perhaps than it should be id:FILE-UUID::SEARCH with usual search options 
> like #CUSTOM_ID, *Heading, etc., with the new variant id:OBJECT-UUID. 
> However I am unsure if search should be limited to a subtree if 
> HEADING-UUID is specified instead of FILE-UUID.

I indeed meant "::" search option. Sorry for the typo.

In any case, I agree with Tor that search option is less elegant. If we
can go for direct UUIDs, let's do it.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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      reply	other threads:[~2023-10-26 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-20 19:12 Feature request: IDs for everything Tor Erlend Fjelde
2023-10-20 22:11 ` Rodrigo Morales
2023-10-21  9:04   ` Tor Erlend Fjelde
2023-10-21 13:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26  6:35   ` Tor Erlend Fjelde
2023-10-26  8:56     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-06 11:52     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-06 12:20       ` Tor Erlend Fjelde
2023-10-26  9:20   ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-26 11:20     ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]

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