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Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:07:41 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <874jbsi1vj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:34:40 -0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283893 Archived-At: >>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: > On 04/23/24 01:44 AM, Daniel Semyonov wrote: >>>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>=20 >> > On 04/21/24 21:41 PM, Daniel Semyonov wrote: >> >>>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>=20 >> >> > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> Ping! Ping! Eric, any comments? >> >>=20 >> >> > Yes, let's do it! My only comment right now is that the manual = should >> >> > explicitly list the steps for creating an atom group: "B nnatom= RET" and >> >> > insert URL without protocol. I still have dreams of fixing the = group >> >> > creation code to prompt for the address, but that can wait. >> >>=20 >> >> > Daniel, would you make that addition? >> >>=20 >> >> Does the following text (in the 'Atom' subsection of the Gnus man= ual) >> >> not suffice? >> >>=20 >> >> The =E2=80=98nnatom=E2=80=99 back end allows you to add HTTP or l= ocal Atom feeds as >> >> Gnus servers (with a single group), as you would with any other m= ethod, >> >> by supplying the location of the feed as the server address. Not= e, >> >> however, that the server address shouldn't be prefixed with or >> >> . >>=20 >> > I think we need to at least make it clear that you can't create th= ese >> > groups with "G m", which to me anyway is the "normal" way of makin= g a >> > group. It wouldn't hurt to be more explicit about the fact that fe= eds >> > are created at the server level, not the group level. I'm not sugg= esting >> > anything radical, something like: >>=20 >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---= =20 >> > The =E2=80=98nnatom=E2=80=99 back end allows you to add HTTP or lo= cal Atom feeds as Gnus >> > servers, in your Gnus init files or as foreign servers via "B" in = the >> > *Group* buffer. The feed location is supplied as the server addres= s, and >> > each server only contains a single group. Note, however, that the = server >> > address shouldn't be prefixed with or . >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >>=20 >> > Or something like that. WDYT? >>=20 >> I gave it another thought and you're right, it should be more explic= it. >> I've attached an updated patch but here's the new version of the >> paragraph (since I actually ended up being even more explicit): >>=20 >> The =E2=80=98nnatom=E2=80=99 back end allows you to add HTTP or loca= l Atom feeds as >> Gnus servers, by adding them to =E2=80=98gnus-secondary-select-metho= ds=E2=80=99 or as >> foreign servers by pressing "B" in the =E2=80=98*Group*=E2=80=99 buf= fer, for example >> (*note Finding the News). The address of each server is its feed's >> location (though the address shouldn't be prefixed with or >> ) and each server contains a single group which holds the >> feed's entries. > That looks great -- I think it can't hurt to provide some more > hand-holding in the manual. I'll get this in this morning. Great, I just did a git pull and I see it; thank you very much! Daniel (BTW I guess this report should be closed; I'm not really sure what the procedure is since this technically isn't my report, but instead was merged with mine at some point)