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From: Thanos Apollo <public@thanosapollo.org>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Writting Greek in Emacs
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 17:37:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cb1qfsa.fsf@thanosapollo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vctd3u$il5$1@ciao.gmane.io>

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Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> On 23/09/2024 21:02, Thanos Apollo wrote:
>> Max Nikulin writes:
[...]
>> but was used _only_ in minuscule manuscripts to save space by combining
>> sigma (σ) + tau (τ).  Stigma is not part of the Greek alphabet.
>
> Thanks for explanation. I just had impression that you are going to 
> achieve typing experience as close to other applications as possible. 
> Perhaps there is really no point in support of some symbols.
>

As close as possible to what someone that types & knows Greek is used
to.

>>> [AltGr+"{"] and [AltGr+"}"] are defined as dead keys for accents, so
>>> it may cause similar issues.
>> 
>> Thanks to quail there is no need for dead keys or using Meta/Control
>> key.
>
> My primary point was not dead keys, but several keys having level3 and 
> level4 symbols. Just shift allows to have 2 symbols per key. Another 
> modifier is required to get more.
>
> However M-{ and M-} are not best examples, <AD11> and <AD12> have no 4th 
> level, just 3rd one. An example for all 4 levels:
>
>      key <AC11> { type[Group1]="FOUR_LEVEL",
>                   [ dead_grave, dead_dasia, apostrophe, quotedbl  ] };
>

Indeed, that's a bad design.  To implement a Greek polytonic keyboard just
copy the commonly used greek monotonic/basic one & add the extra
"tonos" & "spirits".  No need for extra modifier keys, I'm not sure what
the authors wanted to achieve when creating those keyboards.

Currently I'm using the keys "q" "w" ";" for spirits & tonos.  Combined
with shift it provides 6 keys, the exact amount that we need to
implement the polytonic system.  This is done without making any major
changes to the commonly used greek monotonic/basic keyboard, that most
users are familiar with.


-- 
Thanos Apollo
https://thanosapollo.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-24 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-19 14:43 Writting Greek in Emacs Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 14:57 ` Greg Farough
2024-09-19 16:12   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 16:49     ` Greg Farough
2024-09-19 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 16:32   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 16:42     ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-19 16:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 17:05       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 17:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 18:06           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 18:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 19:04               ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20  5:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 18:03         ` Visuwesh
2024-09-19 18:13           ` Visuwesh
2024-09-19 19:03           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 18:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 19:02           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20  5:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20  9:18               ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20  9:47                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 10:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 11:16                   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 12:24                   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 12:39                     ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-20 12:55                       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 13:41                         ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-20 13:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 13:54                       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 14:48                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 22:00                           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-21  8:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 15:31                             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 14:23 ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-20 23:53   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-21  5:40     ` Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs] tomas
2024-09-21 17:55       ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-22  6:47         ` tomas
2024-09-22 11:29           ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-23  5:54             ` tomas
2024-09-24  4:22               ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-24 14:10                 ` tomas
2024-09-21  8:23     ` Writting Greek in Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23  3:28     ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-23 14:02       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-24  3:53         ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-24 14:37           ` Thanos Apollo [this message]
2024-09-24 13:54         ` tomas

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