From: Thanos Apollo <public@thanosapollo.org>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Writting Greek in Emacs
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 17:37:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cb1qfsa.fsf@thanosapollo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vctd3u$il5$1@ciao.gmane.io>
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Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
> On 23/09/2024 21:02, Thanos Apollo wrote:
>> Max Nikulin writes:
[...]
>> but was used _only_ in minuscule manuscripts to save space by combining
>> sigma (σ) + tau (τ). Stigma is not part of the Greek alphabet.
>
> Thanks for explanation. I just had impression that you are going to
> achieve typing experience as close to other applications as possible.
> Perhaps there is really no point in support of some symbols.
>
As close as possible to what someone that types & knows Greek is used
to.
>>> [AltGr+"{"] and [AltGr+"}"] are defined as dead keys for accents, so
>>> it may cause similar issues.
>>
>> Thanks to quail there is no need for dead keys or using Meta/Control
>> key.
>
> My primary point was not dead keys, but several keys having level3 and
> level4 symbols. Just shift allows to have 2 symbols per key. Another
> modifier is required to get more.
>
> However M-{ and M-} are not best examples, <AD11> and <AD12> have no 4th
> level, just 3rd one. An example for all 4 levels:
>
> key <AC11> { type[Group1]="FOUR_LEVEL",
> [ dead_grave, dead_dasia, apostrophe, quotedbl ] };
>
Indeed, that's a bad design. To implement a Greek polytonic keyboard just
copy the commonly used greek monotonic/basic one & add the extra
"tonos" & "spirits". No need for extra modifier keys, I'm not sure what
the authors wanted to achieve when creating those keyboards.
Currently I'm using the keys "q" "w" ";" for spirits & tonos. Combined
with shift it provides 6 keys, the exact amount that we need to
implement the polytonic system. This is done without making any major
changes to the commonly used greek monotonic/basic keyboard, that most
users are familiar with.
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Thanos Apollo
https://thanosapollo.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-24 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-19 14:43 Writting Greek in Emacs Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 14:57 ` Greg Farough
2024-09-19 16:12 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 16:49 ` Greg Farough
2024-09-19 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 16:32 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 16:42 ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-19 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 17:05 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 18:06 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 19:04 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 18:03 ` Visuwesh
2024-09-19 18:13 ` Visuwesh
2024-09-19 19:03 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 19:02 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 9:18 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 9:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 11:16 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 12:24 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 12:39 ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-20 12:55 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 13:41 ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-20 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 13:54 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 14:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 22:00 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-21 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 15:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 14:23 ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-20 23:53 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-21 5:40 ` Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs] tomas
2024-09-21 17:55 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-22 6:47 ` tomas
2024-09-22 11:29 ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-23 5:54 ` tomas
2024-09-24 4:22 ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-24 14:10 ` tomas
2024-09-21 8:23 ` Writting Greek in Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23 3:28 ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-23 14:02 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-24 3:53 ` Max Nikulin
2024-09-24 14:37 ` Thanos Apollo [this message]
2024-09-24 13:54 ` tomas
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